76 Days

Breakthecycle2 · Feb 16, 2017

Hey guys, I hit the 76 day fallow period today for another ICH/Velvet problem I had going on. I have some questions. The first is, I'm hesitant to put anything back in, although I guess this is more a statement then a question. I have two QT tanks currently. I did 30 day copper treatments in both after I first took them out. The one tank had the same 4 fish since day 1 (had 5, lost one). The other, I made a mistake and added some new fish a few weeks. I am currently treating both tanks with copper. The one because of the new additions, the second as a just in case. I really want to add the 4 fish back in, but don't know if I should just wait longer or start them back over the weekend. There's a black tang that has seems stressed. He eats and has no signs of anything, but he's been black/grayish (stress colors) for over 6 weeks now. What do you guys think?

ebushrow · Feb 16, 2017

That is a hard one.....If you accidentally add new fish to a qt'ed set of fish, the clock is supposed to start over....Since you have a black tang ($$) I would really try to resist putting him back in until all the fish have been qt'ed...I know it's hard, but better leave them a bit longer in qt, than starting the 76 days over again. JMO

Breakthecycle2 · Feb 16, 2017

ebushrow said:
That is a hard one.....If you accidentally add new fish to a qt'ed set of fish, the clock is supposed to start over....Since you have a black tang ($$) I would really try to resist putting him back in until all the fish have been qt'ed...I know it's hard, but better leave them a bit longer in qt, than starting the 76 days over again. JMO

Well, the tank by black tang is in, has no fish added since they first went in there. The other tank had the fish added. Im sure im confusing people. Sorry.

ebushrow · Feb 16, 2017

ok....so here is the best thing in the typical qt regimen

dt fallow for 76 days
copper treatment for described time with no additions, no sharing nets, tubes, spoons etc. The fish are good to go back into the tank

Does that make sense?

Breakthecycle2 · Feb 16, 2017

ebushrow said:
ok....so here is the best thing in the typical qt regimen

dt fallow for 76 days
copper treatment for described time with no additions, no sharing nets, tubes, spoons etc. The fish are good to go back into the tank

Does that make sense?

I have separate nets, buckets, drip lines and turkey basters for the QT's and DT.

ebushrow · Feb 16, 2017

Breakthecycle2 said:
I have separate nets, buckets, drip lines and turkey basters for the QT's and DT.

but do you use the same nets etc between the 2 qt tanks you have?....maybe I don't have the idea right....you have 1 dt, and 2 qt's right?

Breakthecycle2 · Feb 16, 2017

ebushrow said:
but do you use the same nets etc between the 2 qt tanks you have?....maybe I don't have the idea right....you have 1 dt, and 2 qt's right?

One DT and two QT, yes. A net hasn't gone into either tank since day 1. No need. I hand handle the fish. I restarted the copper about two weeks ago as a "just in case" I cross contaminated.

Empress · Feb 16, 2017

Breakthecycle2 said:
Well, the tank by black tang is in, has no fish added since they first went in there. The other tank had the fish added. Im sure im confusing people. Sorry.

Sounds like the Tang can go back into the DT so long as NOTHING was cross contaminated (that includes nothing shared between the 2 QT's either). If you shared even a fish net between QT then the clock restarts.

ebushrow · Feb 16, 2017

Empress said:
Sounds like the Tang can go back into the DT so long as NOTHING was cross contaminated (that includes nothing shared between the 2 QT's either). If you shared even a fish net between QT then the clock restarts.

Agree

Breakthecycle2 · Feb 16, 2017

ebushrow said:
Agree

My other issue is, I know I messed up by adding fish to the one QT, but I don't know how much copper these fish can take. I went fishless over the summer because of velvet. I must have cross-contaminated because within a month of the fish being back in, they developed it again. That was only about 8 weeks fallow.

Humblefish · Feb 16, 2017

Breakthecycle2 said:
My other issue is, I know I messed up by adding fish to the one QT, but I don't know how much copper these fish can take. I went fishless over the summer because of velvet. I must have cross-contaminated because within a month of the fish being back in, they developed it again. That was only about 8 weeks fallow.

Have the new fish (and their QT tank mates) also been treated with Prazipro?