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got a fishing pole?
Actually... That's how I got the 2 triggers out in June when I realized they were not going to work. LOL.. Took of the barb and went fishing... !
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got a fishing pole?
Actually... That's how I got the 2 triggers out in June when I realized they were not going to work. LOL.. Took of the barb and went fishing... !
There is zero chance of catching 2 Flame wrasses without taking out all of the rock. They are skittish eaters anyway.I say get to it. Of course you can always try trapping them. If you fish them out, see if you can get it on video!
There is zero chance of catching 2 Flame wrasses without taking out all of the rock. They are skittish eaters anyway.
Not sure if it is the only thing it could be, but I think it is the most likely.Is velvet the only thing this could be? Can Velvet come in on a coral and would it survive a Bayer dip?
Is velvet the only thing this could be? Can Velvet come in on a coral and would it survive a Bayer dip?
The math would work. If you had a single velvet tomont on the coral it could complete it's lifecycle in 4 to 20 days by releasing an average of 200 daughters. You probably wouldn't notice that. However, if those 200 daughters each spawned 200 more around 7 days later you can see how rapidly this parasite can overwhelm a fish.Thursday November 10th would be the last time I put corals in. Does that fit the time frame for Fish to start Dying on the 24th?
The math would work. If you had a single velvet tomont on the coral it could complete it's lifecycle in 4 to 20 days by releasing an average of 200 daughters. You probably wouldn't notice that. However, if those 200 daughters each spawned 200 more around 7 days later you can see how rapidly this parasite can overwhelm a fish.
I forgot why I got out of this hobby in the first place...It could be a disease we know nothing about I suppose. It could be a combo of ick and velvet. Coral dips - even bayer- will not kill the tomont stage of ick or velvet that we know of. Not even copper can do that.
This hobby can be very unforgiving. Sometimes we forget that death and disease run rampant in the oceans. Mammals tend to focus energy on fighting diseases and we have advanced immune systems. Fish have taken a different route. They rely on massive reproduction to make up for their higher mortality rate and weaker immune systems.I forgot why I got out of this hobby in the first place...
I guess I need to QT Fish and corals...
Your fish are much less likely to be electrocuted than you are. Unless an electrical component releases toxins into the water the electricity will only have a minor impact on fish.This is just a terrible situation! I don't really have any ideas being very new...I may NEVER leave my house longer than to go to work again. This is just a random thought and I apologize if anyone already mentioned it, would stray voltage from a pump, or something causing a jolt of electricity cause something like this? I worry about being electrocuted all the time, only reason I think of it! I am so sorry for your losses.
They rely on massive reproduction to make up for their higher mortality rate and weaker immune systems.
i dis agree.as sterile a start as possible
our precautions for disease are because we put them in a box and weaken them in trying domesticate them. its a sad truth.
I would suggest reading this.their immune systems are billions of years old. ours are only millions. they reproduce in larger numbers because they get eaten more because there is no apex predator in the ocean only on land. its a web in the seas. everything eats everything.
I completely agree with this. Not only do we weaken them, but we basically trap them with parasites that would otherwise be flushed into the open ocean and starve in many cases.our precautions for disease are because we put them in a box and weaken them in trying domesticate them. its a sad truth.
I do have a grounding probe in the sump because I have always just done that. I did check with a volt meter and there is no stray voltage. That wasn't too random of a thought... It was one of my first ones.This is just a terrible situation! I don't really have any ideas being very new...I may NEVER leave my house longer than to go to work again. This is just a random thought and I apologize if anyone already mentioned it, would stray voltage from a pump, or something causing a jolt of electricity cause something like this? I worry about being electrocuted all the time, only reason I think of it! I am so sorry for your losses.
Ooops... while I like that one, this one explains the trade off between immunity and reproduction over a wide variety of animals. Most of it went over my head.i dis agree.
their immune systems are billions of years old. ours are only millions. they reproduce in larger numbers because they get eaten more because there is no apex predator in the ocean only on land. its a web in the seas. everything eats everything.
our precautions for disease are because we put them in a box and weaken them in trying domesticate them. its a sad truth.
Qt is partly conditioning to reduce stressors, thus the use of low light. meds insure few aggressive diseases enter our animals environment(dt) as the animals there dont have the wild immune system to withstand a wild parasite or disese.. same as us getting inoculated while traveling and why we cant eat some local foods.
for the OP, im so sorry for your loss. Ive lost a few and have never figured out why.