Lets Talk Substrates for the Marine Aquarium

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Bare-bottom (BB)? Calcium Carbonate (CC) Gravel? Crushed Shell? Sand? Deep vs. Shallow? With all the choices that are out there, no wonder new hobbyists are often confused about which substrate to use for their marine aquarium. In this thread, I shall attempt to address pros and cons of each of the available substrates.

Please remember however, that the choice of substrate must be balanced with two things; Aesthetic value to the viewer and biological value to the livestock. Some fish and inverts require a certain type or depth of substrate, and proper research should be done to ensure that the hobbyist is correctly matching the substrate with the needs of the aquarium's livestock. Sand-sifting gobies such as the Diamond Watchmen and Yellow Shrimp gobies should never be placed in a BB or CC gravel tank, and many wrasse species require a Deep sand bed (DSB) so that they may bury themselves at night or when they perceive themselves to be in danger.

Bare-Bottom (BB): Bare-bottom refers to an aquarium that has no substrate at all. The bottom remains clear, and allows the hobbyist to easily clean up any left over food or debris which may be floating around, using a net, siphon, or state of the art filtering system. This lack of substrate is preferred by those hobbyists who prefer a clean, sterile look in their aquarium, and is often recommended for a quarantine tank. While maintenance is easy, it must be done regularly as debris blowing around the tank can be very unattractive. The lack of substrate means that the hobbyist is gaining no natural filtering benefit from the substrate and is unable to keep sand-dwelling inverts or sand-sifting fish. Additionally, Extra care must be taken when building rock structures or when working in a BB tank as there is nothing to absorb the impact should a rock wall collapse. And finally, refugium lights on a reverse cycle can shine up through the glass bottom, causing the aquarium to be lit from below; therefore individuals may wish to consider painting their bottom.


A study conducted on the denitrifying effects of sand beds noted what appeared to be a correlation between substrate depth and aquarium deaths; with death rates up to twice as high in shallow substrate tanks, and a word of caution that "it doesn't get much shallower than bare-bottom." While I've attached a link to the article, I urge caution in reading too much into the study, as this was not the focus of the actual research.

Feature Article: An Experimental Comparison of Sand bed and Plenum-Based Systems: Part 2: Live Animal Experiments — Advanced Aquarist's Online Magazine

Calcium Carbonate or Dolomite Gravel (CC): Commonly referred to simply as CC, calcium carbonate gravel used to be the most common substrate in marine aquariums, but has since fallen out of favor among hobbyists, although it is still used by some. Larger particles (usually 5 to 20mm in size) of calcium carbonate or dolomite are placed in a layer from 1/4" to 1 1/2" deep over the bottom of the aquarium. The primary reason for its fall from favor is that many believe that CC acts as a trap for uneaten food and debris and turns the substrate into a nitrate factory. Others simply do not care for the look of CC. If the CC bed is properly maintained through regular siphoning and cleaning, it is no more of a nitrate factor than any other substrate. Calcium carbonate and dolomite are both hard substances that break down slowly over time releasing calcium carbonate into the water, helping to maintain calcium levels and buffer pH in the marine aquarium. Calcium carbonate is the same substance from which many marine inverts, such as snails and many species of coral build their skeleton. Dolomite, although similar in appearance to CC is less soluble and breaks down slower as a result.
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(Photo courtesy of Paul Baldassano)

Crushed Shell (CS): Another substrate that has found some small amount of favor among hobbyists is crushed shell. Typically composed of the shells of assorted types of shellfish, CS is generally smaller than the particle size of CC and is generally more aesthetically pleasing to hobbyists, especially those who are familiar with shell-covered beaches. Like CC the CS breaks down, releasing calcium carbonate into the water, however, because it is not as hard as CC or dolomite, it breaks down and dissolves much faster. Additionally, the fine shell pieces in the uppermost layer quickly color up with coralline algae, just as the shells of snails and hermit crabs in your aquarium do. Like the CC if not properly maintained through regular siphoning, the crushed shell can become a nitrate factory as debris and fish waste break down.


Sand: Generally the favored substrate of today's modern reef aquariums, many feel that sand gives the marine aquarium a much more natural look. Additionally, the sand bed provides a place for the growth of micro-fauna and bacteria which aid in the biological filtering of the marine aquarium. Sand is used to cover the bottom of the aquarium to various depths and now is available in a variety of colors (from pink to black), size (very fine "sugar sand" to large grains) and name brands. It is generally recommended to use aragonite sand, so that it, like the CC can bread down slowly over time adding calcium carbonate to the water and helping to buffer pH. Silicate-based sand (usually referred to as play sand) should be avoided; it compacts readily, creating a concrete-like substrate and releases silicates into the water which can cause diatom blooms. Properly setting up any sand bed requires the introduction of bacteria and micro-fauna through the introduction of true Live Sand (not the bagged stuff purchased off the shelves from your LFS which at best contains only bacteria). Some of the disadvantages of a sand bed include sandstorms in the event of too strong of a current within the aquarium and sand being dropped onto LPS polyps. A sand bed is required to properly maintain certain species of fish and invertebrates, however care should be taken in the selection of livestock for the marine aquarium with a sand bed. Some critters, such as Diamond Watchmen gobies and sand-sifting sea stars, can quickly consume all the micro-fauna and bacteria in the sand bed in a smaller tank, thus causing the sand bed to become inert and no longer function for biological filtration. Once they have consumed all the micro-fauna, these animals will often slowly starve.
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Shallow vs. Deep Sand beds: Generally speaking, 1/4" to 2" is considered to be a shallow sand bed (SSB) and 3 1/2" to 6" is considered a deep sand bed (DSB). Generally the area between the two is considered to be an unsafe zone, not quite deep enough for anaerobic bacteria to establish and carry out denitrification, but too deep for aerobic bacteria to be present, thus allowing the build-up of toxic wastes in the form of hydrogen sulfide gas which can be released if the sand bed is disturbed.
(Your photo of a shallow sand bed aquarium here)

It has generally been accepted that SSB, like CC, maintain oxygenated water throughout the sand bed and therefore must be maintained by siphoning, generally on a monthly basis. While DSBs on the other hand have an anaerobic area (typically in the bottom inch or two) very similar to Live Rock, in which anaerobic bacteria are able to establish to help break down nitrates. The DSB requires little to no regular maintenance (some do regularly siphon or stir the top inch or so). Recent research however indicates that both shallow and deep sand beds function in converting organic waste into free nitrogen gas. I've attached a link to the two articles that report these finding below.

Feature Article: An Experimental Comparison of Sand bed and Plenum-Based Systems. Part 1: Controlled lab dosing experiments — Advanced Aquarist's Online Magazine

Feature Article: An Experimental Comparison of Sandbed and Plenum-Based Systems: Part 2: Live Animal Experiments — Advanced Aquarist's Online Magazine

Alternative Materials: A growing number of individuals have also began experimenting with a number of different alternative materials in place of going bare-bottom. Starboard or Corian is one of the more popular alternatives. These materials have similar benefits to BB tank, in that they are easy to siphon off detritus and wastes, and one never has to worry about stirring up sandstorms or clearing sand from LPS polyps. They have the additional advantages of having something in place to absorb a heavy impact in the event of the collapse of rock work, and they lack the sterile look of a BB tank. The lack of substrate however, again means the hobbyist is gaining no natural filtering benefit from the substrate, and is unable to keep any sand-dwelling inverts or sand-sifting fish. Additionally, as with the BB, regular maintenance is required, as accumulated debris blowing around on the bottom can be unattractive, as can the board itself. Further as with the BB, refugium lights on a reverse cycle can shine through from the bottom, so consideration should be given to painting the bottom of the tank.
One question I have is, after cycling old dried sand from a friends tank is it ok to bolster my existing SSB as long as I stay under the 2" depth?and add gradually? In other words, has anyone done this before?
 

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Any ideas on large grain black sand I have bare spots from my gyre
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I just set up my first tank and I hate how the substrate is being built up to one side. I've tried every putting the wave makers in every direction. Any suggestions? I want to figure this out before adding any fish or coral.
 

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I'm not familiar with gyre's but the pump lowest in the tank could be placed higher and aimed at a slight downward angle. With two pumps you can aim them towards each other head on or have one point towards the opposite corner and have the other point towards its opposite corner. It looks like you have a safe beta goal a out of sand. So just keep playing with the pumps until you get less direct flow on the sandbed.
 

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Wow. I had about eight questions to ask this morning and got seven of them answered by discovering this sight and reading this one article/thread by itself. I am new to marine aquariums but have had freshwater tanks ages ago and wanted to get back into the hobby but doing it right with a marine tank. Yesterday afternoon, I went ahead and cleaned out a 20-gal. tank, bought a new 45-gal. back-hanging filter, set it up and started running the filter, adding the appropriate water preparation chemicals, de-chlorination, etc.

Now, I want to have about three to four inches of sand and I bought a bag the guy at the store recommended: Caribbean Live Sand from CaribSea Ocean Direct. Is this the stuff I should be using or is there a better product you would recommend?

Also, I have heard it needs to be washed and then I have heard it shouldn't. So, should I wash the sand before pouring it into the tank? Also, it has a pack of some "Bio Magnet Bacteria" included in the bag. Do I use this and, if so, how would I apply it since I already have water in the tank and plan on basically pouring the sand onto the bottom. (The tank is, at this point, just water (obviously) and I want to gradually introduce sand, living rock, cleaners and fish over time to build it up and do it right without any drastic changes on any given day.

Thanks for helping out with my newbie questions!
 

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Some brands are better than others, but I do believe that is the brand recommended and sold by "bulk reef supply" you can google there sight and check it out. If that is what they sell than you can use it safely. I think really the only issue is wether or not you get what you are paying for with the different brands...some are not "live" by the time we purchase them. The bacteria package can be added straight to the water with the sand. If you open the bag and empty it into the bottom of the tank you should have less cloudiness. Some people rinse it because they ar trying to lessen the cloudiness of the tank once they add the sand.
 

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So been doing a ton of reading on substrate. I am starting up again after a few failed tanks over the years. Have always had a sand bed. Used Live Fiji Pink Live sand 3 inches in my RSM250 65g reef tank. I am just setting up the tank now. I have 75lbs of dry rock to go in the tank. I am on the fence as to if I want to go BB or SSB. My goal is to have LPS corals and some fish. With my tank I don't have a sump so everything is in the tank. 2 pumps and the skimmer. I have a MP40 as well for added flow. I want to create a healthy system that will support good coral growth. Why i was leaning towards BB instead of going the sand route again. But after reading everything just not sure what is the best route for my particular set up to obtain the type of reef i want. would love to hear some opinions.. Thanks.
 

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I mixed 40lbs of live black sand with 20 pounds of dry black send in my 50 gallon. I'm very satisfied
 

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Hello i just started my salt tank its a 45 an i added my live sand it was clear this morning cloudy all day yesterday. i decided "hey its clear why not even out the sand" now its cloudy again lol is this the tank just needing to settle? should i leave my two flow pumps/wave makers on?
Turn pumps and wave makers off. After messing with send. Give your aqurium like 10 to 20 minutes before turning them back on.
 

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Yes you should swap out the substrate since it has been populated with unnecesary nutrients that will cause problems down the road. Stick with live sand and the DSB. One tip i can give is put your sand in and then do your aqua scape and then put some plastic over the substrate and fill the tank. Once the tank is filled remove the plastic and poke the SB to release any air bubbles. (By the way if you are using live sand that cloudiness is beneficial silt being released into your tank. Dont be afraid of it and dont get impatient.. Its part of the hobby!!

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Great Idea
 

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Thanks for your write up very informative. So for a healthy LSB you are suggesting 3-6" I was thinking of doing a mix of aragonite and cured LS to cut down on costs but don't want to cut my critter load.
 

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Hi I've been in this hobby now for about a year now just kind of wondering on what I should do differently with my tank im in need of help so I can work my way up to a healthy fun tank I mean it looks great now but advice and input is greatly appreciated thank you!!!
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I'm currently having the same issue. I setup a 56 gal tank on Sunday Ihave 50 lbs of rock I trying to aquascape and every time it kicks up a sandstorm so bad that I can't even see to the back to finish. If I get nataulis snails in and a sand sifting star when I'm ready for a CUC am I constantly going to have issues? Do I need to remove the sand and put in something else before my tank really gets going. Also as a side note, My LFS told me I could use tap water and use a dechlorinator which from what I've read in the past few days is a horrible idea. I was going to empty the water and start over with atleast RO if not RODI water. I could swap out the substrate at this time, is this a good idea?


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DO NOT USE TAPWATER. there is much bigger problems in tap water than chlorine. Silicates, nitrates, phosphates. You will see huge problems. RO/DI is best.
 

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Oh BTW i have my sand sifting star with 2 big red brittles and 1 huge pink brittle starfish. These stars are all doing great and have been with me for about 5+ years now. On top of that during my switch from DSB tank to BB I transferred some nassarius snails that all are doing fine as well. I did get rid of my wrasse as I wasnt sure he would like BB as he slept in the sand at night.


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Wow. I had about eight questions to ask this morning and got seven of them answered by discovering this sight and reading this one article/thread by itself. I am new to marine aquariums but have had freshwater tanks ages ago and wanted to get back into the hobby but doing it right with a marine tank. Yesterday afternoon, I went ahead and cleaned out a 20-gal. tank, bought a new 45-gal. back-hanging filter, set it up and started running the filter, adding the appropriate water preparation chemicals, de-chlorination, etc.

Now, I want to have about three to four inches of sand and I bought a bag the guy at the store recommended: Caribbean Live Sand from CaribSea Ocean Direct. Is this the stuff I should be using or is there a better product you would recommend?

Also, I have heard it needs to be washed and then I have heard it shouldn't. So, should I wash the sand before pouring it into the tank? Also, it has a pack of some "Bio Magnet Bacteria" included in the bag. Do I use this and, if so, how would I apply it since I already have water in the tank and plan on basically pouring the sand onto the bottom. (The tank is, at this point, just water (obviously) and I want to gradually introduce sand, living rock, cleaners and fish over time to build it up and do it right without any drastic changes on any given day.

Thanks for helping out with my newbie questions!
You mentioned dechlorinater. Which leads me to believe you are using tap water to start off with? Use RO/DI water. The packet of bio magnet, just pour it in the tank. I like to fill the tank with water then add the sand. No pumps running, just let it settle first. I wouldn't wash it either. Some do some don't. Hope it helps.
 

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Getting back to the subject of substrates, one other advantage of using some "white" substrate is that it will reflect some light back up to the coral from below. I have found that this helps limit the die off of shaded areas especially on SPS corals.
 

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Very good article and well written. I try to siphon off different areas with water changes. I have noticed recently doing this there is allot of feather dusters. They are everywhere.
 

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