Tang Aggression - Understanding and Combating

  1. lewis.maryann08

    lewis.maryann08 Well-Known Member

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    My yellow tang done that I took him to LFS
     
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    Depending on the size of the tank, I think you've got a 75:25 chance assuming it's big enough for two!
     
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    @4FordFamily

    I'm setting up a 240 cube. It's roughly 54x54x24. Sump and 'fuge add another 70 and I've got my 40 frag tank plumbed into the system.

    On my short list I've got a purple, powder brown and powder blue. With the purple and the brown being my top two choices.

    Tank mates will be my current livestock which is a leapord wrasse, couple clowns and a neon dottyback. I'd like to also add a trio of Bartlett's Anthias. Corals will be zoa dominant along with LPS.

    What's your thoughts sir?
     
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    Acanthurus prefer 6 feet of swimming distance side to side or more but in a cube of that size you may well be OK IMO.

    Sounds like a good list to me otherwise! The powders may not get along, know that's a risk going forward. Add them at the same time.
     
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    In that case I think I'll forgo the powder blue and do maybe a chevron or white cheek.

    Thank you for your help and sharing your knowledge.
     
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    You're welcome, I'm always willing :)
     
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    I had the Yellow already in QT ready for the display, but I was waiting because I bought a Sailfin, Scopas, and Hippo and wanted to add everyone to the display at the same time. I finished TTM on the new tangs ( no issues) and added them to the 39 gallon qt. The Zebrasomas really went at it swimming backwards at each other. The next day it was the Yellow and Scopas charging. Today I see some chunks missing from the Sailfin and Scopas and witnessed the yellow now biting. He is now in a time out box inside the qt.
    Unfortunately, I will need to postpone adding anyone to the display because the Hippo appears to have Velvet. I'm surprised it took this long to show up, but I'm happy everyone is alive so far. Copper begins tomorrow. I'm wondering if this charging and biting will lessen as time goes on, or will the bigger tank in a month help? I didn't expect to have 4 tangs in qt together this long :( The strange thing is they all huddle together. I don't understand them!:rolleyes: Do you think they can put up with each other a little longer?
     
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    Yeah they will probably be fine but watch it closely. It can get really ugly really quick but I find that typically with enough other tangs zebrasoma get over their differences quickly. If there are still problems (or things are not MUCH better) in a few days to a week you might remove the aggressor and replace with another.
     
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  9. sanchoy

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    Powder blues are tough aggressive nuggets. I introduced a small 2 inch pbt tang into the system. He holds his own against tangs way larger than himself. The Angel tried to pick on him, pictures speak for themselves. Angel is 3x larger than the pbt.

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    Oh yeah in a disease free system powder blue tangs are indestructible
     
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    besides 2 tangs only others is a scooter blenny a honey damsel a blue chromis a couple of emerald crabs and several scarlet and blue hermits it is still a work in progress 100 lbs of liverock and growing slowly looking at possibly one or two more fish like pygmy angels and more cleanup
     
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    Great work on this article, Jason!
     
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    Thanks sir!
     
  14. Brian Reagan

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    I am new to this addiction, um I mean hobby. I currently have 2 yellow tangs and a coral beauty in my 220 gallon tank. Tangs are my favorite type of fish. The short list of tangs I would like are, in order:
    Naso, blond male preferably
    Powder blue
    Achilles
    Sailfin
    Blue
    Purple
    Any recommendations on order or combination of adding at the same time?
    My yellows are somewhat mellow and get along fine.
    Tia
     
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    Your best bet is to add the Achilles powder blue and naso at the same time and the purple sailfin and blue at the same time IMO. The Achilles and PBT may not ever tolerate each other but the only way you'll not fail miserably is if you don't add them at the same time and with at least one other tang.

    He sure to properly treat and qt everyone as powder blue and Achilles in particular will not survive in a system with parasites present unlike some other tangs.
     
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    Hmmm, I made need to forgo the Achilles as the powder blue is the wifes choice. If I take the Achilles out of the mix, does that change things or still the same combos?
    Thank you
     
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    I would add the powder blue last with one other tang (perhaps naso or blue)
     
  18. Susan Bates

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    I have a yellow and saifin tangs and added a Naso a few months ago, with no major problems, the Naso is the most aggressive and the biggest eater
     
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    That's good! Most fish don't mess with naso tangs. Dual scalpels and good size make them intimidating although they're typically docile for a tang.
     
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    IMG_2411.jpg m big boy
     
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