Brown Jelly Disease with Torch - Currently recommend treatments?

[testuser]

I /think/ my torch has BJD. I took the brown goop off of the skeleton-showing/recessed part of the coral and put it under a microscope and saw what looked similar to what I've seen other users post. If so, thoughts on what I can do to save this coral, but most importantly, protect the rest?

 

[testuser]

 

[twentyleagues]

Look up kfc dip may work. I had this rip through my system unfortunately I think It took me too long to get all the meds and it got in the tank. KFC after KFC dip things would look fine for a bit then it would start again. I finally put all euphyllia in a holding tank and did a 10 day cipro treatment. I was hesitant to treat the whole reef. Things have been fine for a few months now. Had one torch head bail on me last night out of nowhere. Didnt melt or jelly just bailed. I glued it to a frag plug to see what happens looked fine other wise....

 

[armyvetheather]

If you don't have kfc, another method is to mix Reef Primer, peroxide, chemiclean, and iodine in a cup of water with your torch. I saved two like this two weeks ago. I think even if you do 3/4 things it's better than doing nothing. It won't hurt if they don't need it either, so it's a win-win.

 

[testuser]

Appreciate the feedback all! Would all of you agree, judging by the pictures and microscope videos that it is indeed BJD?

 

[RedReefer]

Your first pics are not showing.

 

[testuser]

Your first pics are not showing.

The first 3 are videos from the microscope. Not sure why people have time with seeing it, maybe you aren't using Chrome?

Either way, the attached is a still screenshot. Not the best, but I saw amoebas with a bunch of brownish dots in them swimming around.

 

[twentyleagues]

Your first pics are not showing.

It took a while for them to load on my end, videos of microscope slides. I dont know what it looks like on a slide so can not comment on that. Your torch looks unhappy if it had slime then it probably was bjd, usually smells really bad too.

 

[twentyleagues]

The first 3 are videos from the microscope. Not sure why people have time with seeing it, maybe you aren't using Chrome?

Either way, the attached is a still screenshot. Not the best, but I saw amoebas with a bunch of brownish dots in them swimming around.

Videos embedded are hit or miss better to post them on youtube then link here.

 

[testuser]

If you don't have kfc, another method is to mix Reef Primer, peroxide, chemiclean, and iodine in a cup of water with your torch. I saved two like this two weeks ago. I think even if you do 3/4 things it's better than doing nothing. It won't hurt if they don't need it either, so it's a win-win.

I don't have KFC as I don't think some of those are even legal to get over the counter without a script (amoxicillin, is that right?).

Anyway, for the Reef Primer and friends, would Coral RX work instead? Also, what iodine should I use? I have Chemiclean already and hydrogen peroxide. Most importantly, what is the dosage/measurement of each relative to 1g of salt water? Any directions anywhere?

 

[twentyleagues]

I don't have KFC as I don't think some of those are even legal to get over the counter without a script (amoxicillin, is that right?).

Anyway, for the Reef Primer and friends, would Coral RX work instead? Also, what iodine should I use? I have Chemiclean already and hydrogen peroxide. Most importantly, what is the dosage/measurement of each relative to 1g of salt water? Any directions anywhere?

I am not at home atm but I can post a link where you can get the meds fish related or you can do a search here for kfc dip. I think @crazyfishmom posted the site to get meds before.

 

[twentyleagues]

Cipro

My hammer corals are suffering from BJD and I would like to try cipro dosing. It is my last hope as I have lost many other euphyllia through BJD. I’ve calculated that I need about 6 ml of cipro solution. The only problem I have is that I can’t find cipro anywhere. All the stores need a...

www.reef2reef.com

From a search. I didnt check it for amoxi
edit its the one that has both.

 

[crazyfishmom]

I am not at home atm but I can post a link where you can get the meds fish related or you can do a search here for kfc dip. I think @crazyfishmom posted the site to get meds before.

Antibiotics for aquaria

 

[crazyfishmom]

I don't have KFC as I don't think some of those are even legal to get over the counter without a script (amoxicillin, is that right?).

Anyway, for the Reef Primer and friends, would Coral RX work instead? Also, what iodine should I use? I have Chemiclean already and hydrogen peroxide. Most importantly, what is the dosage/measurement of each relative to 1g of salt water? Any directions anywhere?

Antibiotics for aquaria

 

[testuser]

I think before I start going ham on this coral, I should get a solid ID that it's brown jelly disease. Tell me what you think of this.

One of the tentacles inflated up like a balloon, super swollen, while some others were deflated like an empty balloon. The entire coral is all limp and receded. I wonder if it's just a gonner, and I haven't seen any other substance that resembles the brown jelly. Could it have been something else? It was instant. It looked fine this morning, then by the early afternoon it went terrible.

Thoughts?

 

[RedReefer]

I think before I start going ham on this coral, I should get a solid ID that it's brown jelly disease. Tell me what you think of this.

One of the tentacles inflated up like a balloon, super swollen, while some others were deflated like an empty balloon. The entire coral is all limp and receded. I wonder if it's just a gonner, and I haven't seen any other substance that resembles the brown jelly. Could it have been something else? It was instant. It looked fine this morning, then by the early afternoon it went terrible.

Thoughts?

If you feel that way. I would just trash the coral and monitor the rest of the tank.

 

[JayM]

I think before I start going ham on this coral, I should get a solid ID that it's brown jelly disease. Tell me what you think of this.

One of the tentacles inflated up like a balloon, super swollen, while some others were deflated like an empty balloon. The entire coral is all limp and receded. I wonder if it's just a gonner, and I haven't seen any other substance that resembles the brown jelly. Could it have been something else? It was instant. It looked fine this morning, then by the early afternoon it went terrible.

Thoughts?

Smell it. You'll know right quick if it's BJD.

IME, unless it's a really big, really expensive colony, or running rampant amongst all of your euphyllia, it's best just to cut off the infected head, trash it and hope for the best. Run of the mill torch frags are often cheaper than the treatment.

 

[ReefStable]

I would remove the torch and treat in a quarantine tank. I would recommend cipro or KFC if you can.

If it is brown jelly (most likely) or any bacterial infection, it's in your tank and all torches are at risk. It can start killing torches overnight. I tend to use cipro at the first signs of issue and treat the full tank.

 

[testuser]

Smell it. You'll know right quick if it's BJD.

IME, unless it's a really big, really expensive colony, or running rampant amongst all of your euphyllia, it's best just to cut off the infected head, trash it and hope for the best. Run of the mill torch frags are often cheaper than the treatment.

Zero odor at all. Is it possible that the other torch stung it and it caused a panic response from the other torch? Maybe it was a release of zooxanthelea? Under the microscope, it does look like this: https://c8.alamy.com/comp/CNY672/mi...zooxanthellae-of-the-dinoflagellat-CNY672.jpg

 

[crazyfishmom]

That looks like a mix of zoanthellae and tons of different bacterial populations.