Clarisea or Red Sea reefmat??

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Hi

I have a clarisea sk3000 and im getting nearly 5 months between roll changes, this if course could be great but i tested today and i have 0.03 phosphate but 60ppm nitrate, i cannot help but thinking the clarisea isnt pulling out as much as it should hence the higb nitrate and long intervals between roll changes

Just wondering if id see any changes by swapping to a Red Sea reef mat or its wishful thinking, of course id like to sort the high nitrates but if i dont need to spend £350 that's good
 

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that's a long time for a roll, the detritus and food is still breaking down while in your filter. Maybe adjust the roller to raise the water height in the roller or maybe go to a finer mesh material.
 
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Its at the highest height it can be creating the most headheight for water to push through the fleece, the clarisea however has a float switch to advance the roll and thats not adjustable
 

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looked it up, its rated for 800 gph. but need to make sure the water depth is set to max 8 inches. Only other thing might be the food and detritus are not getting moved out of your tank into the filtration.
 
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looked it up, its rated for 800 gph. but need to make sure the water depth is set to max 8 inches. Only other thing might be the food and detritus are not getting moved out of your tank into the filtration.
Its sitting mostly out of the water which is recommended to force more water through the fleece.

Its a good point about food etc not getting into the filtration, i have 3x wave makers and a fair bit of flow, when i blow the rocks off it does kick the fleece roller into more action so im assuming its keeping things suspended ok
 

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Its sitting mostly out of the water which is recommended to force more water through the fleece.

Its a good point about food etc not getting into the filtration, i have 3x wave makers and a fair bit of flow, when i blow the rocks off it does kick the fleece roller into more action so im assuming its keeping things suspended ok
the higher the water level the faster it will set off the water level sensor to rotate the roller fleece
 
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the higher the water level the faster it will set off the water level sensor to rotate the roller fleece
We might losing something in translation/understanding here but my clarisea is sitting virtually out of the water, just the bottom couple of inches in the water, this is what is recommended by the manufacturer on this filter roller
 

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a lot is getting past your roller filter, lower it to get it to roll faster, this will keep the food/detritus from breaking down in your filter, you need it deeper, max for it is listed as 8 inches deep
 
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a lot is getting past your roller filter, lower it to get it to roll faster, this will keep the food/detritus from breaking down in your filter, you need it deeper, max for it is listed as 8 inches deep
Nothing is getting past it, its a sealed box that has holes in both sides lined with the fleece the only way the water gets out is passing through the fleece
 

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your filter roll lasts a long time. the debris sits in the filter for a long time. allowing it to break down and raise your parameters. a new roller may not fix your condition. need to set it deeper into the water. this will cause it to change fleece faster. as stated above there may be more conditions involved, but 5 months on a roll is a long time.
 
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your filter roll lasts a long time. the debris sits in the filter for a long time. allowing it to break down and raise your parameters. a new roller may not fix your condition. need to set it deeper into the water. this will cause it to change fleece faster. as stated above there may be more conditions involved, but 5 months on a roll is a long time.
Im literally doing what the manufacturer suggests, they say by sitting it out of the water it creates a bigger head pressure thus bring able to force the water through the fleece and as it clogs it essentially gets finer filtering properties, i totally agree something is wrong as 5 months is ridiculous, the sump needs a good clean so maybe ill drop the clarisea lower at the same time and see what happens
 

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We might losing something in translation/understanding here but my clarisea is sitting virtually out of the water, just the bottom couple of inches in the water, this is what is recommended by the manufacturer on this filter roller
Yes and that also causes the roll not being advanced as often, leading to less effective mechanical removal.
 

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