From ATI ESSENTIAL PLUS to BALLING TM (the original)

[bandando]

Currently I am dosing 60 ml of ATI ESSENTIAL PLUS 1 and 60 ml of ATI ESSENTIAL PLUS 2 daily, and to maintain stable salinity, I have to remove 480 ml of saltwater daily by dosing pump.
I have some doubts about long-term ion balance despite regular water changes.

I have decided to switch to the original Tropic Marin Balling.

Two questions:
1. Based on the experience of others, what could be the equivalent dosage with Tropic Marin products (A-B-C)?
2. Will I still need to remove saltwater to keep the salinity stable?

 

[Pod_01]

Currently I am dosing 60 ml of ATI ESSENTIAL PLUS 1 and 60 ml of ATI ESSENTIAL PLUS 2 daily, and to maintain stable salinity, I have to remove 480 ml of saltwater daily by dosing pump.
I have some doubts about long-term ion balance despite regular water changes.

I have decided to switch to the original Tropic Marin Balling.

Two questions:
1. Based on the experience of others, what could be the equivalent dosage with Tropic Marin products (A-B-C)?
2. Will I still need to remove saltwater to keep the salinity stable?

Not sure about item 1. But if you know your daily Alk consumption the dose can be estimated.

Yes for item 2, you will need to remove saltwater to deal with salinity creep. All 2 and 3 part systems have salinity creep.

If you do not want salinity creep you can try TM AFR. With this product there is calcium creep but if you do water changes you will likely not notice the creep.

Good luck,

 

[Koty]

IME there is also calcium creep in TM Balling ABC. Maybe the solution is to make the A 94-97% of the recommended concentration.

 

[Pod_01]

IME there is also calcium creep in TM Balling ABC. Maybe the solution is to make the A 94-97% of the recommended concentration.

Yes there can be calcium creep, the consumption in general follows:

Alk 2.8 dKH
Calcium 18-20 ppm
Magnesium 0-2 ppm

I am not sure what the theoretical addition of part A of TM Original Balling is vs. Part B.

Maybe @Hans-Werner can let us know. Inquiring minds want to know…

 

[Hans-Werner]

Yes there can be calcium creep, the consumption in general follows:

Alk 2.8 dKH
Calcium 18-20 ppm
Magnesium 0-2 ppm

I am not sure what the theoretical addition of part A of TM Original Balling is vs. Part B.

Maybe @Hans-Werner can let us know. Inquiring minds want to know…

Tropic Marin Original Balling, when equal volumes are dosed, doses calcium and alkalinity in stoichiometric ratios which means the ratio to form calcium carbonate.

Many tanks consume more alkalinity than calicum compared to this stoichiometric ratio which causes the calcium creep.

Alk 2.8 dKH
Ca 20 ppm (19.97 ppm)

is the stoichiometric consumption for formation of pure calcium carbonate without calcium being replaced by magnesium in magnesium calcite. With some magnesium consumption it meets the numbers you are giving.

 

[Pod_01]

Many tanks consume more alkalinity than calicum compared to this stoichiometric ratio which causes the calcium creep.

Thank you, and this helped a lot. I assumed that extra calcium was added vs. more Alk being consumed.