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Hey could you post this test in a separate thread and link it here? Really interested in the results
Oops quoted wrong response meant the one above you @randyBRS
Hey could you post this test in a separate thread and link it here? Really interested in the results
Oops quoted wrong response meant the one above you @randyBRS
Thanks for this info ...I made one of these yesterday and attached it too my skimmer ...works great I managed too source 1 kg of this for 8euros 14 euros with postage ..A common issue among aquariasts is that their tank has a lower than desired pH. Many tanks commonly dip to a pH of 7.8 or even lower at night. Although, to the best of our knowledge, this isn't low enough to harm the inhabitants of your aquarium, it does slow down the growth of your corals.
The low pH is generally caused by excess carbon dioxide (CO2) in the system for various reasons. Common causes are the buildup of organics in a system, living in an energy efficient (fairly air-tight) house, and the use of a calcium reactor.
There are several ways of combating the problem. Many people grow macro algae in a refugium on an opposite light cycle from their main tank. The macro algae uses the CO2 during the light periods to create energy (remember photosynthesis?). Others dose with kalkwasser, which both adds calcium and alkalinity to the system and raises its pH. I was doing both of these things but was still having issues with low pH.
That's when I read about the use of a CO2 scrubber. What's a CO2 scrubber? Very simply, it's a container that holds soda lime. When you run air through the container, the soda lime binds with the CO2. This is commonly used in scuba diving rebreathers and in air lines for patients under anathesia.
In aquariums, it is very easy to connect the container to the air intake of your skimmer so that no extra carbon dioxide is going into your system. Most people who run CO2 scrubbers report a 0.2 to 0.3 increase in their average pH.
Parts/tools needed-
How to begin- first you need to source your soda lime. The soda lime needs to be in a pellatized form. The powder form can easily get into your system and it is quickly used up. It is also good to get they type that changes color when it binds with the CO2 so that you know when to change it out. I've heard that some people get theirs from a scuba dive store, but that it is expensive. mdb_talon mentions below that he purchased his from a dive store for around $75 for a 5 gallon bucket. I purchased mine from National Airgas, a welding supply store. They call it Sofnoline, which I think is a typo on Sofnolime, the brand name. Some people have paid around $120 for a 5-gallon bucket. I was quoted $80, but was able to talk them down to $60. It should be enough to last me for a year or two.
- pelletized soda lime
- a clean, clear plastic container with cap
- drill
- drill bits
- super glue
- silicon
- airline tubing that fits your skimmer's air intake
- beer
- screws (optional)
- C-clamp (optional)
- hacksaw (optional)
If you want to just buy a smaller amount, Eynonreefer sourced a 3 lb bag for $7.50 JOR553 - Soda Lime, 3 lb. bag in Anesthesia Products at Med-Vet International
Next, you need a container to hold the pellatized soda lime. You can use any clean, clear plastic container that you find around your house. I used an empty Gatorade container.
You need to drill small holes in one end of the container for the air to come in. Make sure that the holes are small enough that the soda lime can't fall through and make sure that there are enough of them so that the air is not overly restricted.
On the other end, drill a hole in the cap large enough so that the airline just fits. Push it in a little way and use superglue to temporarily hold it (superglue dries fast, but doesn't do a good job of adhereing to these plastics). Then, use silicon to seal both sides of the interface between the airline and the cap.
While you are waiting for the silicon to dry, you can decide where you want to put your container. If you have a large enough area under your tank, you might be able to just stand it up anywhere. My cabinet is fairly tight, so I used some screws and cut a plastic C-clamp in half to create a small holder for the container over the cabinet doors.
Once the glue is dry, fill the container with soda lime, put on the top and connect the other side of the airline to your skimmer's air intake.
I connected my CO2 scrubber a few weeks ago and the low point of my pH has gone from 7.8 up to 8.0.
Before CO2 Scrubber
After CO2 Scrubber
I hope this helps some people out. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
CJ
Here's some photos of itThanks for this info ...I made one of these yesterday and attached it too my skimmer ...works great I managed too source 1 kg of this for 8euros 14 euros with postage ..
It will change color when used up ..
The ph graph is for the last week ...you can see where I added the scrubber ..awesome ..!!!!
Ingenious!A common issue among aquariasts is that their tank has a lower than desired pH. Many tanks commonly dip to a pH of 7.8 or even lower at night. Although, to the best of our knowledge, this isn't low enough to harm the inhabitants of your aquarium, it does slow down the growth of your corals.
The low pH is generally caused by excess carbon dioxide (CO2) in the system for various reasons. Common causes are the buildup of organics in a system, living in an energy efficient (fairly air-tight) house, and the use of a calcium reactor.
There are several ways of combating the problem. Many people grow macro algae in a refugium on an opposite light cycle from their main tank. The macro algae uses the CO2 during the light periods to create energy (remember photosynthesis?). Others dose with kalkwasser, which both adds calcium and alkalinity to the system and raises its pH. I was doing both of these things but was still having issues with low pH.
That's when I read about the use of a CO2 scrubber. What's a CO2 scrubber? Very simply, it's a container that holds soda lime. When you run air through the container, the soda lime binds with the CO2. This is commonly used in scuba diving rebreathers and in air lines for patients under anathesia.
In aquariums, it is very easy to connect the container to the air intake of your skimmer so that no extra carbon dioxide is going into your system. Most people who run CO2 scrubbers report a 0.2 to 0.3 increase in their average pH.
Parts/tools needed-
How to begin- first you need to source your soda lime. The soda lime needs to be in a pellatized form. The powder form can easily get into your system and it is quickly used up. It is also good to get they type that changes color when it binds with the CO2 so that you know when to change it out. I've heard that some people get theirs from a scuba dive store, but that it is expensive. mdb_talon mentions below that he purchased his from a dive store for around $75 for a 5 gallon bucket. I purchased mine from National Airgas, a welding supply store. They call it Sofnoline, which I think is a typo on Sofnolime, the brand name. Some people have paid around $120 for a 5-gallon bucket. I was quoted $80, but was able to talk them down to $60. It should be enough to last me for a year or two.
- pelletized soda lime
- a clean, clear plastic container with cap
- drill
- drill bits
- super glue
- silicon
- airline tubing that fits your skimmer's air intake
- beer
- screws (optional)
- C-clamp (optional)
- hacksaw (optional)
If you want to just buy a smaller amount, Eynonreefer sourced a 3 lb bag for $7.50 JOR553 - Soda Lime, 3 lb. bag in Anesthesia Products at Med-Vet International
Next, you need a container to hold the pellatized soda lime. You can use any clean, clear plastic container that you find around your house. I used an empty Gatorade container.
You need to drill small holes in one end of the container for the air to come in. Make sure that the holes are small enough that the soda lime can't fall through and make sure that there are enough of them so that the air is not overly restricted.
On the other end, drill a hole in the cap large enough so that the airline just fits. Push it in a little way and use superglue to temporarily hold it (superglue dries fast, but doesn't do a good job of adhereing to these plastics). Then, use silicon to seal both sides of the interface between the airline and the cap.
While you are waiting for the silicon to dry, you can decide where you want to put your container. If you have a large enough area under your tank, you might be able to just stand it up anywhere. My cabinet is fairly tight, so I used some screws and cut a plastic C-clamp in half to create a small holder for the container over the cabinet doors.
Once the glue is dry, fill the container with soda lime, put on the top and connect the other side of the airline to your skimmer's air intake.
I connected my CO2 scrubber a few weeks ago and the low point of my pH has gone from 7.8 up to 8.0.
Before CO2 Scrubber
After CO2 Scrubber
I hope this helps some people out. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
CJ
What app is that on your phone?I have a 800sq ft house and a $165 window fan. I just recently updated my Seneye so I don’t have data on how it effected the pH but here is the result from opening a window and turning the fan on CO2 levels. Keep in mind this meter is in a bedroom which is smaller than the front room/dining area. My parents have a whole house fan and that thing has some crazy power in comparison to this. But theirs was also way more expensive.
Only issue about the fan is the same issue people have with keeping the windows closed... need to run it when the weather is nice.
Also note from the graph in 10-12 hours the CO2 was back over 1000ppm.
Anyone have a good amazon link for some good color changing absorbent media?
What app is that on your phone?
I didn't realize seneye measured co2?Looks like it's for a Seneye.
I didn't realize seneye measured co2?
Made one of these today using a voss plastic water bottle and BRS media for my tunze 9004 skimmer. Already seeing a .20 pH increase!
The small bag of media fit perfectly, wish I could find a cheaper source without buying 5 gallon buckets though.