Looking like this will be a killer build!
Thanks, @Hydrored. Hat goes off to you, because I'm basing a lot of my build off of all your hard work ;-)
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Looking like this will be a killer build!
I have a 72”x54”x30” acrylic display. As long as you have a step stool and a pair of grabbers you should have no issues.My specs on display have changed a little from my original posts regarding this build. I'm going to go with 96L x 36W x 30T which is about 450 gallons. The 11ft tank introduced some challenges on placement in my room with regards to the windows on the perpendicular walls, so I decided to reduce it to 8ft, but go wider and deeper. I originally had concerns about going 30" deep, but I think I'm just going to live with the challenges of reaching the bottom of the tank when I need to.
So, the major challenge I have right now is deciding which builder to use for the display. I've narrowed it down to two options:
- Glass Cages - 3/4" Starfire glass on 3 panels and Starfire Eurobrace
- My Reef Creations (MRC) - 1/2" Low-Iron on 3 panels, a PVC bottom and Acrylic Eurobrace
References
Glass Cages has hundreds of people that I can talk to about their tanks and Joe is a really great guy to work with thus far. I can easily find dozens of build threads on this forum and read reviews of those reefers giving positive reviews on Glass Cages. On the other hand, I'm limited to two people on this forum that I could find who have purchased an MRC aquarium and was only able to get one verbal positive review from one of them.
Warranty
MRC will only give me a 30 day warranty unless I use one of their steel stands. Glass Cages will warranty their tank for 1 year regardless if I use Framing Tech for the stand. I've read awesome reviews online of Glass Cages replacing tanks with no questions asked anytime there was a problem and even doing so after the 1 year warranty. I've got no references for MRC aquariums other than what the sales guy says.
Technology
The Glass Cages tank is tried-and-true 30+ year strategy in building stable tanks. MRC uses thinner glass because they use a solid PVC bottom and solid Acrylic top that are routed so the glass sits almost tongue-and-groove in the top of bottom of the tank. The MRC tank will definitely be lighter and some will say the solid bottom and solid eurobrace are "better". I've kinda drank the MRC cool-aid on this selling point, but I'm just not sure if it's just a way for them to cut costs or if its really materials that will last longer. <shrug>
Uggg...decisions, decisions.
Today is an exciting day! I finally placed the order with @Joe Glass Cages at Glass Cages for the tank. Specs:
Here's my lame rendition of what it will look like.
- Dimensions: 96"L x 36"W x 30"T
- Glass: 3/4" thick Starfire Low-Iron on the front and side panels
- Perimeter and Cross Eurobrace: 3" W x 3/4" thick Starfire Low-Iron
- Silicon: Black w/Concealed Waterline and Vertical Seam Guards
- Overflows: 2 x 16" Synergy Reef Shadow V3's (tucked under the perimeter glass)
- Returns: 4 x 1"
so exciting! thanks so much for sharing @rsumnerToday is an exciting day! I finally placed the order with @Joe Glass Cages at Glass Cages for the tank. Specs:
Here's my lame rendition of what it will look like.
- Dimensions: 96"L x 36"W x 30"T
- Glass: 3/4" thick Starfire Low-Iron on the front and side panels
- Perimeter and Cross Eurobrace: 3" W x 3/4" thick Starfire Low-Iron
- Silicon: Black w/Concealed Waterline and Vertical Seam Guards
- Overflows: 2 x 16" Synergy Reef Shadow V3's (tucked under the perimeter glass)
- Returns: 4 x 1"
dude! Hey man @Hydrored@Joe Glass Cages will take good care of you. I couldn't be happier with my tank. Congrats!
Let's talk lighting. I really love the look and spread the Orphek Atlantik panels provide. I've also been really successful on my 100 gallon tank mixing AI32's and T5's, so I'm hoping to go full LED on this new build and I feel the Orphek will get into all the nooks and crannies.
I'm thinking of starting with 5 panels mounted sideways (long side of the panel is going front to back on the tank). This should provide the 36" front-to-back coverage on my tank without issue and mounting them 18" on center should provide coverage across the length of the tank also. I'll build a custom 15-series t-slot mounting frame to suspend them from similar to what @Hydrored did on his build. I do worry about the Orphek being able to reach to the bottom of a 30" deep tank, but I guess I can always add one or two more panels if find PAR is substandard at the sand. 6 panels would use a 15" mounting spread and 7 panels would use a 12" mounting spread. Considering the lights are 9.3" wide, going with 7 panels would only leave about 2.7" between them -- tight squeeze.
Orphek has a sale on their website right now and no sales tax if I order from them vs BRS. Hrmmm, I wonder if the wife would notice another $4600 charge on the Amex.
Definitely a good plan in my opinion. 5 fixtures will be a great amount of light. I've got 3 over my 72" x 36" and they do a wonderful job. I did supplement with OR bars but more because of the frames than anything else. They are great lights!Let's talk lighting. I really love the look and spread the Orphek Atlantik panels provide. I've also been really successful on my 100 gallon tank mixing AI32's and T5's, so I'm hoping to go full LED on this new build and I feel the Orphek will get into all the nooks and crannies.
I'm thinking of starting with 5 panels mounted sideways (long side of the panel is going front to back on the tank). This should provide the 36" front-to-back coverage on my tank without issue and mounting them 18" on center should provide coverage across the length of the tank also. I'll build a custom 15-series t-slot mounting frame to suspend them from similar to what @Hydrored did on his build. I do worry about the Orphek being able to reach to the bottom of a 30" deep tank, but I guess I can always add one or two more panels if find PAR is substandard at the sand. 6 panels would use a 15" mounting spread and 7 panels would use a 12" mounting spread. Considering the lights are 9.3" wide, going with 7 panels would only leave about 2.7" between them -- tight squeeze.
Orphek has a sale on their website right now and no sales tax if I order from them vs BRS. Hrmmm, I wonder if the wife would notice another $4600 charge on the Amex.
I have had nothing but positive experiences with Orphek customer service. Thankfully, they have a distributor here in Michigan so it takes very little time to get my orders. :0)@Orphek is absolutely awesome. I ordered the 5 Atlantik iCon panels this morning directly on their website. A sales rep from Orphek contacted me personally thanking me for my order, introducing himself, and offering any assistance I may need now or in the future. I noticed the Orphek has refugium lighting also, so I contacted them for more details and recommendations on the spectrum and spread I was hoping to achieve. I got a prompt response and ordered 2 of their OR3 60 Red Grow Plus and 1 of their OR3 60 Blue Grow Plus LED bars for my refugium. Everything should ship tomorrow.
Did MRC happen to explain how the glass and PVC joint would bond and seal? The dado in the PVC makes structural sense but I don’t know what they use to seal it.