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Aw cmon, no response? I'll admit I could've worded my first post a bit more politely. Had a bad experience with BRS support that day and was taking it out in that post, sorry that was uncalled for. But how are those not legitimate questions? I'm not just pointlessly debating this either, I was ready to buy 3 of the controllers and heaters before I even saw the video. After watching it the first time, I figured I have to be missing something, this is a BRS product. So I watched it again and read both threads, all of which confirmed my initial impressions.
I'll assume you guys are right about the higher temperature resolution, but the replaceable probe and temp alarms don't appear to be new features and I still don't think two heater outlets is a selling point if there's only one relay. From what I can gather, it seems like you guys are comparing the controller to a specific inkbird model that doesn't have these features when many of them do.
Now that you brought this up, the cobalt heaters go down to 0.05 IIRC and are more than accurate enough with their internal thermostats. I think I have 6 of them at this point, and they're still accurate even after 3 ish years of use on the older ones. Shouldn't the best heater of 2019 be able to do what a heater from 2015 can? I know that sounds a little snarky, not my intention, just don't know how else to word that.
I believe most heaters get stuck on, not off. So if a thermostat failed and the heater got stuck on, it would then be reduced to the same functionality as the schego heater right? I also don't understand how an extra thermostat is a failure point. Maybe if they were independent and didn't limit each other, but they work in series so if either one failed the backup would take over. If these controllers are expected to fail in around a year, then I think a backup thermostat in the heater would be pretty useful. Especially if it's not normally in use, making it less likely to fail.
Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. I know I sounded pretty sure of myself in the first post, but that was the frustration talking. Whenever I buy something, I always goto BRS first because I know I can trust the information and reviews. I also want to support a company that has someone like Ryan at the top. I like to imagine that every shipment going out has Ryan at the final checkpoint going "nah man, not good enough....man" lol. So that's why I have a hard time letting this go. Honestly if you guys just marked it up $20 and said "it's the same thing, but support us because of BRSTV", I'd still buy it.
I'll assume you guys are right about the higher temperature resolution, but the replaceable probe and temp alarms don't appear to be new features and I still don't think two heater outlets is a selling point if there's only one relay. From what I can gather, it seems like you guys are comparing the controller to a specific inkbird model that doesn't have these features when many of them do.
There are a few reasons we didn't go this route. Heaters with internal thermostats don't tend to be as accurate at temp regulation as a heater with a remote temp probe. If the internal thermostat does go, you have a useless heating element that you have to toss and replace, even if the heating element is still good. The thermostat is the most likely portion to fail.
We believe the Schego heating elements are the best available, and building on that product, we needed a temp control system to support it. Unfortunately Schego doesn't produce a controller that's compatible with US wiring needs. If we had gone with a different brand that had an internal thermostat built into the element, we'd essentially be selling you a standard heater, plus a temp controller. If you wanted to go that route, you can buy any old heater we sell and plug it into our controller. By using the Schego heating elements without an internal thermostat, we are able to eliminate a failure point and point of inaccuracy.
Now that you brought this up, the cobalt heaters go down to 0.05 IIRC and are more than accurate enough with their internal thermostats. I think I have 6 of them at this point, and they're still accurate even after 3 ish years of use on the older ones. Shouldn't the best heater of 2019 be able to do what a heater from 2015 can? I know that sounds a little snarky, not my intention, just don't know how else to word that.
I believe most heaters get stuck on, not off. So if a thermostat failed and the heater got stuck on, it would then be reduced to the same functionality as the schego heater right? I also don't understand how an extra thermostat is a failure point. Maybe if they were independent and didn't limit each other, but they work in series so if either one failed the backup would take over. If these controllers are expected to fail in around a year, then I think a backup thermostat in the heater would be pretty useful. Especially if it's not normally in use, making it less likely to fail.
Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this. I know I sounded pretty sure of myself in the first post, but that was the frustration talking. Whenever I buy something, I always goto BRS first because I know I can trust the information and reviews. I also want to support a company that has someone like Ryan at the top. I like to imagine that every shipment going out has Ryan at the final checkpoint going "nah man, not good enough....man" lol. So that's why I have a hard time letting this go. Honestly if you guys just marked it up $20 and said "it's the same thing, but support us because of BRSTV", I'd still buy it.