Black Ich

[Dmb092182]

I have a blue tang that has a couple spots of black ich. The black ich cause bacterial splotches sometimes. I feel that it is not regular ich because a white splotches look too big. Blue tang eats 2 to 3 algae sheets a day. Lrs herbivore mixed with garlic, second, vita-chem. I have also done metro and focus together in food. Blue tang eats and graze all day. So I feel if I did a dip prazipro, maybe this would help with the black ich hanging around on the fish. I run uv and I know this is not 100% effective but I think it helps. How should go about doing a dip. He has handled freshwater dips fine. What should be my next step or should I just leave it be since he is eating so well and getting fat?

 

[aykwm]

you can check this thread by Humblefish: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/black-ich-turbellarians.259912/
If the black spots look similar to the photos then you can treat with prazipro or formalin bath.
Bacterial infections will arise due to worms eating the flesh of the fish and creating injuries and wounds, so metro is good option.
I would definitely treat it as these worms are eating the fish, you don't want that.

 

[jeff williams]

I have a blue tang that has a couple spots of black ich. The black ich cause bacterial splotches sometimes. I feel that it is not regular ich because a white splotches look too big. Blue tang eats 2 to 3 algae sheets a day. Lrs herbivore mixed with garlic, second, vita-chem. I have also done metro and focus together in food. Blue tang eats and graze all day. So I feel if I did a dip prazipro, maybe this would help with the black ich hanging around on the fish. I run uv and I know this is not 100% effective but I think it helps. How should go about doing a dip. He has handled freshwater dips fine. What should be my next step or should I just leave it be since he is eating so well and getting fat?

Here's here's a link to identify https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/f...utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=January_23_2017
And yes prazipro should do the trick however a bath or dip is only a band aid the tank will need to be treated also a pic could help out and do you have coral is it possible it's a sting

 

[Dmb092182]

Here's here's a link to identify https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/f...utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=January_23_2017
And yes prazipro should do the trick however a bath or dip is only a band aid the tank will need to be treated also a pic could help out and do you have coral is it possible it's a sting

I do have coral, I know a dip might only be a band aid but I feel that if I use prazipro in The Who system it would kill pod population for mandarin.

 

[Dmb092182]

I do have coral, I know a dip might only be a band aid but I feel that if I use prazipro in The Who system it would kill pod population for mandarin.

I am currently trying to trap the fish so we will see.

 

[aykwm]

If you can take a picture it will definitely help to confirm if its black ich or coral stings. Dosing prazipro in the reef is safe for all inverts and pods, although it might affect feather dusters, bristle worms or other ornamental worms, thats why its not recommended.

 

[jeff williams]

+ 1 I think the pods should be ok.

 

[Dmb092182]

+ 1 I think the pods should be ok.[/QUOTE

 

[Dmb092182]

Do you think my sps corals and cleaner shrimp would be ok to do prazipro in whole system?

 

[jeff williams]

Ya the only think I'm aware of that might be affected would be feather dusters and worms.

 

[jeff williams]

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[aykwm]

ALSO DO NOT ADD STRESS REDUCING AGENTS OR WATER CONDITIONERS LIKE PRIME TO YOUR TANK WHEN DOSING PRAZIPRO

You can add prime to the tank, you mentioned it in the page you quoted and I also tried it several times.
"conditioned with ULTIMATE or a combination of Liquid Buffered ClorAm-X and Stress-X to remove ammonia, chlorine and chloramines."
"There are no known contraindications to the use of Liquid PraziPro"

Anyways, if you can move the fish to QT tank its much better to treat than in reef. But if you are willing to dose in reef make sure to follow exact directions on bottle, make sure no carbon, uv, or skimmer running.

Also prazipro might suppress the appetite of the fish, and they might stop eating, so observe your fish and ensure its eating and healthy.

 

[4FordFamily]

Black ich looks like little black dots typically. The fact we have white splotches makes me wonder about stress spots or infection.

Can you post photos of the ailment(s)?

 

[jeff williams]

You can add prime to the tank, you mentioned it in the page you quoted and I also tried it several times.
"conditioned with ULTIMATE or a combination of Liquid Buffered ClorAm-X and Stress-X to remove ammonia, chlorine and chloramines."
"There are no known contraindications to the use of Liquid PraziPro"

Anyways, if you can move the fish to QT tank its much better to treat than in reef. But if you are willing to dose in reef make sure to follow exact directions on bottle, make sure no carbon, uv, or skimmer running.

Also prazipro might suppress the appetite of the fish, and they might stop eating, so observe your fish and ensure its eating and

Good to know however cloram-x isn't a binding agent in removes the ammonia and chlorine from the water , prime Is a binding agent along with other water conditioners and stress guards so we're the problem comes from is O2 levels can be affected with these binding agents. Prime is usually over dosed and when this happens the fish can suffocate so as a general guideline imo do not use binding agents use another product like cloram-x or be extremely careful when dosing

 

[Dmb092182]

Ya the only think I'm aware of that might be affected would be feather dusters and worms.

Black ich looks like little black dots typically. The fact we have white splotches makes me wonder about stress spots or infection.

Can you post photos of the ailment(s)?[/QUOT
I will post a pic when I get home. He has swam in and out of my trap yesterday so he is used to it so I plan on giving him a dip today hopefully. Still eating like a horse so I know is doing well but would like to get rid of the 1 to spots of black ich that have been on him and moving.

 

[aykwm]

Well overdosing medications or chemicals will most likely have bad results in tank. Overdosing a lot of prime in aquarium free of any medication will yield same results, but probably fish under medication are stressed and will have severe reaction, especially that some fish are sensitive to prazipro. Anyway dosing prime to the manufacturer recommendation should be fine and no negative effects should be seen.

 

[Humblefish]

Well overdosing medications or chemicals will most likely have bad results in tank. Overdosing a lot of prime in aquarium free of any medication will yield same results, but probably fish under medication are stressed and will have severe reaction, especially that some fish are sensitive to prazipro. Anyway dosing prime to the manufacturer recommendation should be fine and no negative effects should be seen.

+1 Overdosing can cause ill effects to the fish, underdosing can fail to eradicate the pathogen. So, it's important to dose accurately.