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I’ve recently switched to Fritz Blue Box from Instant Ocean purple box. I have a water mixing station with two stock tanks that are pre-marked with gallon marking on them. I buy salt by the 200 gallon boxes which is 50 gallons per bag. With instant ocean I could mix up one bag of salt and end up with 50 gallons of saltwater. Very rarely did I need I need to make adjustments (adding salt or water, etc.). With Fritz I am only getting about 45 gallons of saltwater. I’m on my 3rd box and this has been pretty consistent. Basically I feel like I’m being short changed about 10% (paid for 200 gallons and ending up with 180). Has anyone else noticed this?
 

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I haven’t noticed, but I don’t keep track so I wouldn’t have any reason to. I use just a hair over 1 cup per 20 gallons to get 35ppt.


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Oops. 10 cups per 20 gallons - not 1 cup.
 
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Hi -

I’ve recently switched to Fritz Blue Box from Instant Ocean purple box. I have a water mixing station with two stock tanks that are pre-marked with gallon marking on them. I buy salt by the 200 gallon boxes which is 50 gallons per bag. With instant ocean I could mix up one bag of salt and end up with 50 gallons of saltwater. Very rarely did I need I need to make adjustments (adding salt or water, etc.). With Fritz I am only getting about 45 gallons of saltwater. I’m on my 3rd box and this has been pretty consistent. Basically I feel like I’m being short changed about 10% (paid for 200 gallons and ending up with 180). Has anyone else noticed this?

What salinity do you mix to?

Normal IO won't mix 50 gallons at 35 ppt for a 50 gallon bag.

Fritz gives amounts used to make water at only 30 ppt:

 

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What salinity do you mix to?

Normal IO won't mix 50 gallons at 35 ppt for a 50 gallon bag.

Fritz gives amounts used to make water at only 30 ppt:

Yep. Their calculator says 63.2 pounds for 200 gallons at 35ppt. The big box is only 55 pounds which would be about 175 gallons at 35ppt.
 
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Starting over - my post above got messed up somehow.

That is it. There is a calculator on their website that confirms it. Do have any idea why they show it at 30 ppt? I thought standard was 35 ppt.
 

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Starting over - my post above got messed up somehow.

That is it. There is a calculator on their website that confirms it. Do have any idea why they show it at 30 ppt? I thought standard was 35 ppt.
I don’t know, but they do mention on their site that 1.020-1.026 is the “proper range”.

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Do you have any idea why they list it at 30 ppt? Isn’t 35 the typical standard.

Makes the boxes seem like to do more than they do?

I do not recommend 30 ppt.
 

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Hi -

I’ve recently switched to Fritz Blue Box from Instant Ocean purple box. I have a water mixing station with two stock tanks that are pre-marked with gallon marking on them. I buy salt by the 200 gallon boxes which is 50 gallons per bag. With instant ocean I could mix up one bag of salt and end up with 50 gallons of saltwater. Very rarely did I need I need to make adjustments (adding salt or water, etc.). With Fritz I am only getting about 45 gallons of saltwater. I’m on my 3rd box and this has been pretty consistent. Basically I feel like I’m being short changed about 10% (paid for 200 gallons and ending up with 180). Has anyone else noticed this?
Been using io from 1986 . Still using. Back then was salt most everyone used
 

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I haven’t noticed, but I don’t keep track so I wouldn’t have any reason to. I use just a hair over 1 cup per 20 gallons to get 35ppt.


Edit:
Oops. 10 cups per 20 gallons - not 1 cup.
When I read this, I didn’t initially see the edit…I just went straight into a panic attack thinking that I have been WAAAAAY over-doing it on salt over the last 30 years
 

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For our cultures we mix at 1.023 salinity and it takes me pretty close to 20 cups to mix 42 gallons with IO. I use Fritz Blue Box RPM for my tanks. I mixed to the top of the handle indent on a brute 45 gallon grey trash can which I believe is 37-38 gallons. I added 10 cups and came to 1.012 I ran out and had to go to the garage for a new box, can’t remember if I added another 8 or 10 then and was at 1.023 so 18-20 cups put me at 1.023 and 20-22 cups put me at 1.025. For me Fritz takes less to make the same water (the LFS that sold me it to start when I got back in the hobby says it takes less than IO as well).
 

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