Ich treating

[littlehermit0]

So I can't decide if I should do the QT or another option.. what I wanted to do to cure my clownfish ich, is moving the rocks and invertebrates into another tank, leaving the Fish in the display tank with hyposalinity, OR making a QT for my clownfish and waiting until ich dies in the tank with no host fish, I do NOT have copper equipment btw, and I'm scared of a quarantine tank because of the ammonia amounts, and hard to get this much water to my qt (50% changes????)

 

[Sharkbait19]

If the tank a fowlr or reef?
If you are going to go to the trouble of setting up a new tank for the inverts, you might as well just put the fish in that tank and qt it.
All new fish will have to be qt’ed to avoid future outbreaks anyway.
The process is daunting, but as long as you are on top of it it isn’t so bad.

 

[littlehermit0]

If the tank a fowlr or reef?
If you are going to go to the trouble of setting up a new tank for the inverts, you might as well just put the fish in that tank and qt it.
All new fish will have to be qt’ed to avoid future outbreaks anyway.
The process is daunting, but as long as you are on top of it it isn’t so bad.

It's a Fowlr tank and I might have trouble with the QT, what about the cycle? And will ich die without host? How fast?

 

[Sharkbait19]

Ich will die without a fish host after 60 days.
If you move media from the dt to the qt (biomedia in the filter), this can help to cycle the qt.
If you don’t have any corals, it can make moving inverts and doing a hypo treatment much easier. In that case inverts can be kept out of the display tank for at least 60 days while you can do a hyposalinity treatment on the dt (sg of 1.009 for 30 days after the last spot disappears).

 

[littlehermit0]

Ich will die without a fish host after 60 days.
If you move media from the dt to the qt (biomedia in the filter), this can help to cycle the qt.

Isn't there ich on the media? How much water changes in the qt?

 

[vetteguy53081]

So I can't decide if I should do the QT or another option.. what I wanted to do to cure my clownfish ich, is moving the rocks and invertebrates into another tank, leaving the Fish in the display tank with hyposalinity, OR making a QT for my clownfish and waiting until ich dies in the tank with no host fish, I do NOT have copper equipment btw, and I'm scared of a quarantine tank because of the ammonia amounts, and hard to get this much water to my qt (50% changes????)

Trust me- treat in a separate tank and not display as it will be near impossible to safely stock coral and inverts
Don’t count on reef safe treatment to be effective either

 

[littlehermit0]

Trust me- treat in a separate tank and not display as it will be near impossible to safely stock coral and inverts
Don’t count on reef safe treatment to be effective either

Yeah that seems way easier, I do not have treatment is what I mean, and I can't really order one... What should I do in my QT? I'll just wait until the ich dies in the DT, but about QT cycling? they say to put filter media, but it might contain ich too... My ammonia test kit arrives in a few days or tomorrow.

 

[Sharkbait19]

Yeah that seems way easier, I do not have treatment is what I mean, and I can't really order one... What should I do in my QT? I'll just wait until the ich dies in the DT, but about QT cycling? they say to put filter media, but it might contain ich too... My ammonia test kit arrives in a few days or tomorrow.

You will potentially be transferring ich into the qt with filter media, but that risk would not matter since you would be treating in qt.
Do you have access to copper based meds?

 

[littlehermit0]

You will potentially be transferring ich into the qt with filter media, but that risk would not matter since you would be treating in qt.
Do you have access to copper based meds?

Maybe, I'll search in the LFS what they have, do I need a copper test kit?

 

[Sharkbait19]

Maybe, I'll search in the LFS what they have, do I need a copper test kit?

Yes - otherwise you won’t know if you are over or under dosing.

 

[littlehermit0]

Yes - otherwise you won’t know if you are over or under dosing.

Oh... Well then Formalin and malachite green is all I can do if I'll be able to find it (if the test is REALLY needed of course)

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Oh... Well then Formalin and malachite green is all I can do if I'll be able to find it (if the test is REALLY needed of course)

Formalin/malachite green just doesn't work well for marine ich, I stopped using it except with freshwater fish.

If you can get coppersafe, and IF you know the exact volume of the tank, you can dose it without a test kit....

Jay

 

[vetteguy53081]

Oh... Well then Formalin and malachite green is all I can do if I'll be able to find it (if the test is REALLY needed of course)

No malachite or formalin
What country are you in?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Yeah that seems way easier, I do not have treatment is what I mean, and I can't really order one... What should I do in my QT? I'll just wait until the ich dies in the DT, but about QT cycling? they say to put filter media, but it might contain ich too... My ammonia test kit arrives in a few days or tomorrow.

I just saw youre in France. You will want Avloclor or Copper Power which you can also get

 

[littlehermit0]

Formalin/malachite green just doesn't work well for marine ich, I stopped using it except with freshwater fish.

If you can get coppersafe, and IF you know the exact volume of the tank, you can dose it without a test kit....

Jay

Will seachem cupramine work?

 

[Sharkbait19]

Will seachem cupramine work?

If it’s all you can get, it can work but needs to be dosed differently than other copper meds.
Coppersafe is the better option.