Anyone stopped dosing daily bacteria??

[danlechem]

Wow.

I'm in sales.

These products are a dream.

Look at this marketing connection....

I know people that would KILL to have their lines land like that. Did this come straight off the bottle?

You should probably buy another one just incase. Maybe there's a buy 1 get one 50% off somewhere.

Seriously. Stop putting bottles of crap in your tank.

This isn't from brightwell so no lines have landed, you're wrong in your assumptions as a lot of salesmen tend to be. Brightwell don't even suggest daily dosing!!

I started dosing bacteria due several threads on this forum including tank of the month winners showing amazing results and putting it down to bacteria dosing. I liked the logic and the results people were getting so decided to try it while the tank is maturing.

Just because someone is using different methods that may or may not be fruitful be careful to assume you know best and make hilarious 50% off jokes, it may back fire.

 

[danlechem]

I was dosing MB7 daily and zeobac twice a week. I had a couple dry rock start ups so I figured maybe it would help out. I didn't get an ugly stage on either but I have a lot of live rock in both sumps so maybe the bacteria helped maybe it didn't. I've been dosing the bac for 9 months but am stopping now mainly because I've used up my supply.

EDIT : Sunnyx has pretty good success and he adds bacteria. He calls his system bacteria driven or something along those lines.

Yeah I'm in a similar position. I think I'll stop when this bottle runs dry and see if I notice a difference - good or bad. Can always start it up again.

 

[twentyleagues]

Some believe in a bacteria driven system and there are tanks out there that do dose bacteria like @SunnyX you can not argue he has a beautiful tank and not just this one his other tanks have also been beautiful. That said is it necessary? Probably not. Many people also have beautiful tanks with out adding bottled bacteria. Just saying I understand it and believe it can/does work.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

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I was dosing MB7 daily and zeobac twice a week. I had a couple dry rock start ups so I figured maybe it would help out. I didn't get an ugly stage on either but I have a lot of live rock in both sumps so maybe the bacteria helped maybe it didn't. I've been dosing the bac for 9 months but am stopping now mainly because I've used up my supply.

EDIT : Sunnyx has pretty good success and he adds bacteria. He calls his system bacteria driven or something along those lines.

Might be wrong, but isnt his philosophy more along the lines of bacterial diversity? Again, Im not sure, but I dont think he dosing the same redundant 5 bacterial strains in a bottle.

 

[danlechem]

In your first post you mentioned that you wonder if you should bother...no. I think youd be hard pressed to find someone who isnt a salesman advise you dose 5 strains of the same bacteria every day. If adding the bacteria works the way you think, why do you have to add more every day?

This is certainly not a cheap hobby, but dosing as much as you do for a 6 month old tank makes it a lot more expensive unnecessarily.
Just out of curiosity, what and how many corals do you have in a 6 month old tank that require you to dose afr and kalk??

Yeah makes sense what you're saying but some experienced reefers with unbelievable tanks rely on this method (together with excellent husbandry etc).

I've got around 30 corals ranging from small frags to zoa gardens, montis , large Goni to a huge Duncan with 50 heads.

 

[danlechem]

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Might be wrong, but isnt his philosophy more along the lines of bacterial diversity? Again, Im not sure, but I dont think he dosing the same redundant 5 bacterial strains in a bottle.

He dose mb7 daily along with zeovit I believe

 

[Rhetoric]

This isn't from brightwell so no lines have landed, you're wrong in your assumptions as a lot of salesmen tend to be. Brightwell don't even suggest daily dosing!!

I started dosing bacteria due several threads on this forum including tank of the month winners showing amazing results and putting it down to bacteria dosing. I liked the logic and the results people were getting so decided to try it while the tank is maturing.

Just because someone is using different methods that may or may not be fruitful be careful to assume you know best and make hilarious 50% off jokes, it may back fire.

I love this response so much!

Someone else got sold and you got right on that bandwagon.

That's how consumerism works.

 

[Tamberav]

Here it was sent off to be tested, if you care to know what is in MB7.

You could send off a sample if your tank and compare if you are curious to see what is actually growing/thriving.

Bottle bacteria results - Brightwell MB7 and Tim's Eco-Balance

Here are two that are similar. This is MB7 And this is Eco-Balance Main thread - Bottled bacteria results - main thread

humble.fish

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

He dose mb7 daily along with zeovit I believe

He doses Zeovit and adds a carbon source but he heavily emphasizes live rock and strongly prefers live ocean rock...thats the primary source of bacterial diversity. Its bacterial diversity he desires...the bacterial diversity on real ocean live rock is physically impossible to bottle. The "bacteria driven system" is based on diversity. Thats far different.

 

[twentyleagues]

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Might be wrong, but isnt his philosophy more along the lines of bacterial diversity? Again, Im not sure, but I dont think he dosing the same redundant 5 bacterial strains in a bottle.

No @SunnyX uses just a few bottled products.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

Ill just say this:
If you want to dose bottled bacyeria every day, go ahead and dont let anyone stop you. Those 5 or 6 strains versus many thousands would seem to be pointless to most, but if you believe in it, go ahead. You asked a question and the answers seem to overwhelmingly emphasize that the answer to your question is no...thats all.

 

[danlechem]

He doses Zeovit and adds a carbon source but he heavily emphasizes live rock and strongly prefers live ocean rock...thats the primary source of bacterial diversity. Its bacterial diversity he desires...the bacterial diversity on real ocean live rock is physically impossible to bottle. The "bacteria driven system" is based on diversity. Thats far different.

No I think you should read his threads again. He doesn't just dose zeovit he doses daily mb7 and additionally when he adds coral snow as additional food. I'm not disputing he uses ocean live rock but he still doses daily bacteria, specifically mb7 which is what this thread is about.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

No @SunnyX uses just a few bottled products.

I just looked at his thread which is where I got that from.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

No I think you should read his threads again. He doesn't just dose zeovit he doses daily mb7 and additionally when he adds coral snow as additional food. I'm not disputing he uses ocean live rock but he still doses daily bacteria, specifically mb7 which is what this thread is about.

Im really not going to spend the 3 secknds rereading it...if he does dose MB7, does that make your method the same as his?

 

[exnisstech]

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Might be wrong, but isnt his philosophy more along the lines of bacterial diversity? Again, Im not sure, but I dont think he dosing the same redundant 5 bacterial strains in a bottle.

I remember reading he used MB7 at some point but TBH I'm not sure exactly what his full method is. I just stopped in to answer the OP title question. I don't have the knowledge or desire to argue the pros or cons of dosing bacteria.

 

[danlechem]

Im really not going to spend the 3 secknds rereading it...if he does dose MB7, does that make your method the same as his?

Specifically dosing mb7 daily is exactly the same method although there are dozens of other techniques he may employ I'm absolutely not referring to any them hence the title of this thread is not "how do I replicate sunnyx's system". Please keep up or read another thread.

 

[zheka757]

To be fair to OP, these bacteria bottle do say, they recommend adding bacteria to established tanks. Like when doing big water changes...
But that is just a sales pitch from companies. I can guarantee there is no clear evidence anyone can find if it helps on established tank.
On a side note. What if I have a quarantine tank for fish? With no rocks just pvc plastics. Maybe this is where it could be useful during water changes to add bacteria?!

 

[00W]

I've never dosed bacteria.
Ever.
In any tank.

 

[Troylee]

I was dosing MB7 daily and zeobac twice a week. I had a couple dry rock start ups so I figured maybe it would help out. I didn't get an ugly stage on either but I have a lot of live rock in both sumps so maybe the bacteria helped maybe it didn't. I've been dosing the bac for 9 months but am stopping now mainly because I've used up my supply.

EDIT : Sunnyx has pretty good success and he adds bacteria. He calls his system bacteria driven or something along those lines.

It works! I don’t care what anyone says! Sunny x was a great example and I run my tank the same way! I’ve never had an algae problem my nutrients stay very low and the sps love it! I’ve even expanded to a gut loaded bacteria to feed my sps the same way Alan has been running it and that works also! You can literally see the feeders come out of the sps when dosing it and they stay out for a couple hours.. do you have to dose it? No! But it surely doesn’t hurt..

 

[danlechem]

It works! I don’t care what anyone says! Sunny x was a great example and I run my tank the same way! I’ve never had an algae problem my nutrients stay very low and the sps love it! I’ve even expanded to a gut loaded bacteria to feed my sps the same way Alan has been running it and that works also! You can literally see the feeders come out of the sps when dosing it and they stay out for a couple hours.. do you have to dose it? No! But it surely doesn’t hurt..

Thanks Troylee- this isn't my first tank but it is the first time I've dosed bacteria and the clear surfaces / coral growth / water clarity has surprised me. As you say it it doesn't hurt although from these replies people still believe it can upset the tank. Maybe I'll stick with it a bottle or two longer after all!