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I am starting a beginner reef tank, and I think I have a plan of what to do, but I wanted to run it past people on this forum who undoubtedly have more experience than me on these matters (I’ve had freshwater fish before but never a salt water tank). So I’ll outline my plan and ask a few questions along the way!

I want to do a 55-gallon tank with a 20-gallon sump. Big sump, I know, but I kind of want it there in case any fish turns out to be a jerk and needs to be banished to it. Plus, it increases the amount of water, which means more stability so yay stability! I was thinking about possibly going up to 75 gallons for the main tank, but that plus a sump would be a lot more weight, and our house was made in 1946, so I don’t want to put too much weight on the floor (I know which way the joists go, and it’ll be placed along a load bearing wall). That said if someone knows a way that I could reasonably go that big and spread the weight out more, I’m all ears. My plan for fish: I definitely want a yellow watchman goby and tiger pistol shrimp combo. I know the randall, tiger and candy cane pistol shrimp are the safe ones, I’ve just seen stuff about tiger shrimp the most, but if another variety is better than tiger I’m interested. After that I’d like a bicolor blenny, 1-2 firefish and a royal gramma. I’m curious if these fish might have any compatibility issues since they are all of the same general shape and all gobies (I’ve read mixed things online, so thanks internet). I’d also be pretty happy with a couple clowns, though I must admit they don’t tickle my fancy quite the way the various gobies do and I would kind of want an anemone for them to pair with. I have some friends in the area who have tanks who said they’d be happy to frag me some soft corals (beginner friendly :D) and then obviously there will be some snails and hermit crabs as the cleanup crew. I’m thinking Cerith snails though they might be attacked by the hermit crabs? Nassarius are also on my radar, but I like the idea of a snail that eats algae, on the other hand I know the nassarius do a great job of mixing up the sand. Does this sound like an appropriate amount of sealife for a 55 gallon tank with 20 gallon sump?

Possibly, if that all above isn’t too much, I’d be interested in adding an anemone and a pair of clowns. I know that would be best left until the tank is established for the anemone, so that wouldn’t be immediate anyhow, I just want to see if that’s at all reasonable? I’m guessing not, but wanted to throw it out there.

I’m going to start the tank with dry rock. I want to do that to minimize parasites coming in. I know someone who said they’d give me a couple live rocks. They’ve had a couple bristleworms in the past but I have read that as long as they aren’t fireworms (this person has just had common bristleworms), they’re actually a very valuable part of the cleanup crew. If they become a problem? The tweezers of god shall fall upon them. As far as cycling the tank, My plan is to put in a bottle of bacteria and try to seed some coraline algae at the same time, then after 3 days put in some hermit crabs. A week after them, I’ll put in some snails, and a couple weeks after that introduce fish, one species at a time, with a couple weeks separation between introduction. I’m curious what would be a good order to introduce the fish above to the tank? Also when to introduce coral? Particularly I'm interested in the pistol and goby, as I definitely want them to pair. I might be able to get paired ones from a local fish store, and in that case do I introduce them at the same time? Going to get pre-quarantined fish to ensure no diseases

Finally, I’d love a good suggestion list for things to maintain the tank, to test the water etc. A good friend recommended an ATO (specifically the tunze nano osmolator) and AI prime lights, I think I will do a skimmer, I know I’ll need a refractometer, but what other good options are out there for things to monitor the water and keep it going well? I am also going through the equipment threads on this forum as well. I want to do it right, so thank you for any suggestions and wisdom!
 

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here is the minimum youll need to maintain a 50-75 gallon tank...
testing: refractometer, CA, Mg, DKA.
several 5 gallon buckets, RODI filter somewhere in your home, mag 5 with 10' hose, if you have sand bed then gravel vac,, if not a6' 3/8 hose and 6' 3/4 vinyl hose with screen fitting is what I use to remove water during weekly 10%water change. , I have two 32 gallon trash cans on wheels because my RODI is not at the tank, mixing can: I have a eheim heater and old powerhead from a CPR bak pak for oxygen and mixing salt., other can has a float valve to make 20 gallons. two sponge pads, tooth brush, I have a plastic measuring cup, a 1/4 measing spoon, 10ml syringe with needle, butterfly needle with tubing and 3 ml syringe to kill aptasea, Magnetic algae scrubber. thats about all you need. lol
 

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I've heard the standard 55 gallon tank can be difficult due to the width. 12" may be difficult to aquascape. I personally would recommend the 40 gallon breeder. It's wider footprint will be easier to scape and provide more room for your goby.

My advice to you is to research, research, research. I started this hobby by eagerly rushing it and "learning as I go". I can personally attest that is a recipe for disaster. My first tank failed miserably and it was completely avoidable.

Everyone will recommend watching Bulk Reef Supply's 52 Weeks of Reefing on YouTube. It's good advice and you should.
 

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I've heard the standard 55 gallon tank can be difficult due to the width. 12" may be difficult to aquascape. I personally would recommend the 40 gallon breeder. It's wider footprint will be easier to scape and provide more room for your goby.

My advice to you is to research, research, research. I started this hobby by eagerly rushing it and "learning as I go". I can personally attest that is a recipe for disaster. My first tank failed miserably and it was completely avoidable.

Everyone will recommend watching Bulk Reef Supply's 52 Weeks of Reefing on YouTube. It's good advice and you should.
I agree wholeheartedly with all of this. My original plan was to go with a 29 but the narrowness just seemed so difficult to work with, ended up with a 40 Breeder and 29 sump and I couldn't be happier.

Check out my build thread if you need some inspiration! I just finished filling up my tank for the first time last night, after about 6 months of research and planning, and am so excited to cycle and begin filling it with life.

I definitely recommend starting a build thread when you do get going, it has already helped me keep track of what I've been doing.
 

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You can cross brace the floor joist and then support them to increase the weight they will hold. I currently have a 120 gal tank on my main floor, which is the second floor and I just added a supporting wall under the floor. I plan on upgrading to a 225 gal tank and plan on increasing the bracing to support it.
 
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I've heard the standard 55 gallon tank can be difficult due to the width. 12" may be difficult to aquascape. I personally would recommend the 40 gallon breeder. It's wider footprint will be easier to scape and provide more room for your goby.

My advice to you is to research, research, research. I started this hobby by eagerly rushing it and "learning as I go". I can personally attest that is a recipe for disaster. My first tank failed miserably and it was completely avoidable.

Everyone will recommend watching Bulk Reef Supply's 52 Weeks of Reefing on YouTube. It's good advice and you should.

I have also seen there are 50 gallon tanks that have similar (slightly larger) dimensions than the 40 breeder, would that be a good way to go as well? And how does the fish load seem? Could I go as far as, after the initial fish, to put in an anemone and clowns? I am still very much in the planning phase, I really do want to know everything ahead of time and coincidentally I just found Bulk Reef Supply's videos, and I've been binging them. I am considering going with a lawnmower blenny in lieu of a bicolor, it looks like it would be a much stronger utilitarian fish to help keep algae down, especially early on. I really want to do this right, and so I appreciate all of your knowledge here!
 
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You can cross brace the floor joist and then support them to increase the weight they will hold. I currently have a 120 gal tank on my main floor, which is the second floor and I just added a supporting wall under the floor. I plan on upgrading to a 225 gal tank and plan on increasing the bracing to support it.

Unfortunately I have to be careful about doing too much, the house is old and I know the siding is asbestos, I'm a little worried about digging too far into things. I think I ought to very reasonably be able to support a 50 gallon tank with a big sump right along a load bearing wall though. Thank you for the information!
 
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I agree wholeheartedly with all of this. My original plan was to go with a 29 but the narrowness just seemed so difficult to work with, ended up with a 40 Breeder and 29 sump and I couldn't be happier.

Check out my build thread if you need some inspiration! I just finished filling up my tank for the first time last night, after about 6 months of research and planning, and am so excited to cycle and begin filling it with life.

I definitely recommend starting a build thread when you do get going, it has already helped me keep track of what I've been doing.

I will absolutely check that thread out and start one of my own when I get going! I'm still very much in the planning phase. I really want to do it right and have my ducks in a row before I start. Does my fish lineup seem realistic? Could I go as far as an anemone and clowns if I have a 40 gallon breeder or 50 gallon (similar but slightly larger dimensions to the 40 breeder) tank (with the original post's fish plan)? Obviously with a sizeable sump. I am leaning instead of a bicolor blenny to a lawnmower blenny to really keep the algae down. Might be the first fish I put in the tank, before the lights go on. Thank you very much for your knowledge and experience here!
 

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I am starting a beginner reef tank, and I think I have a plan of what to do, but I wanted to run it past people on this forum who undoubtedly have more experience than me on these matters (I’ve had freshwater fish before but never a salt water tank). So I’ll outline my plan and ask a few questions along the way!

I want to do a 55-gallon tank with a 20-gallon sump. Big sump, I know, but I kind of want it there in case any fish turns out to be a jerk and needs to be banished to it. Plus, it increases the amount of water, which means more stability so yay stability! I was thinking about possibly going up to 75 gallons for the main tank, but that plus a sump would be a lot more weight, and our house was made in 1946, so I don’t want to put too much weight on the floor (I know which way the joists go, and it’ll be placed along a load bearing wall). That said if someone knows a way that I could reasonably go that big and spread the weight out more, I’m all ears. My plan for fish: I definitely want a yellow watchman goby and tiger pistol shrimp combo. I know the randall, tiger and candy cane pistol shrimp are the safe ones, I’ve just seen stuff about tiger shrimp the most, but if another variety is better than tiger I’m interested. After that I’d like a bicolor blenny, 1-2 firefish and a royal gramma. I’m curious if these fish might have any compatibility issues since they are all of the same general shape and all gobies (I’ve read mixed things online, so thanks internet). I’d also be pretty happy with a couple clowns, though I must admit they don’t tickle my fancy quite the way the various gobies do and I would kind of want an anemone for them to pair with. I have some friends in the area who have tanks who said they’d be happy to frag me some soft corals (beginner friendly :D) and then obviously there will be some snails and hermit crabs as the cleanup crew. I’m thinking Cerith snails though they might be attacked by the hermit crabs? Nassarius are also on my radar, but I like the idea of a snail that eats algae, on the other hand I know the nassarius do a great job of mixing up the sand. Does this sound like an appropriate amount of sealife for a 55 gallon tank with 20 gallon sump?

Possibly, if that all above isn’t too much, I’d be interested in adding an anemone and a pair of clowns. I know that would be best left until the tank is established for the anemone, so that wouldn’t be immediate anyhow, I just want to see if that’s at all reasonable? I’m guessing not, but wanted to throw it out there.

I’m going to start the tank with dry rock. I want to do that to minimize parasites coming in. I know someone who said they’d give me a couple live rocks. They’ve had a couple bristleworms in the past but I have read that as long as they aren’t fireworms (this person has just had common bristleworms), they’re actually a very valuable part of the cleanup crew. If they become a problem? The tweezers of god shall fall upon them. As far as cycling the tank, My plan is to put in a bottle of bacteria and try to seed some coraline algae at the same time, then after 3 days put in some hermit crabs. A week after them, I’ll put in some snails, and a couple weeks after that introduce fish, one species at a time, with a couple weeks separation between introduction. I’m curious what would be a good order to introduce the fish above to the tank? Also when to introduce coral? Particularly I'm interested in the pistol and goby, as I definitely want them to pair. I might be able to get paired ones from a local fish store, and in that case do I introduce them at the same time? Going to get pre-quarantined fish to ensure no diseases

Finally, I’d love a good suggestion list for things to maintain the tank, to test the water etc. A good friend recommended an ATO (specifically the tunze nano osmolator) and AI prime lights, I think I will do a skimmer, I know I’ll need a refractometer, but what other good options are out there for things to monitor the water and keep it going well? I am also going through the equipment threads on this forum as well. I want to do it right, so thank you for any suggestions and wisdom!

Tank recommendation;
size is great, assume it’s drilled already? Might look into All in one tanks. There are often easier to set up... having said that I’m not giving my sump up.

fish:
Heard a few different gobys which I love but if you add too many or more than one of the species they WILL fight. 55 gallons you can get a yellow or purple tang.


coral:
 
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Tank recommendation;
size is great, assume it’s drilled already? Might look into All in one tanks. There are often easier to set up... having said that I’m not giving my sump up.

fish:
Heard a few different gobys which I love but if you add too many or more than one of the species they WILL fight. 55 gallons you can get a yellow or purple tang.


coral:


I'm actually looking into a red sea reefer 250. I'm doing my research and I really want a sump. Not only that, but the reefer comes with a lot of the things I need, plumbing already cut, and the sump is refugium ready. I'll be down to 65 gallons, but that is leading to adjustments in my fish. YWG/ pistol shrimp is absolutely happening I'm more than a little looking forward to them making some sweet digs. However I think I'm going to start the tank with a yellowtail damsel as the initial fish, then swap it out once the tank gets going. Second fish will be a tail spot blenny. I thought about a lawnmower, but with a refugium I'm not sure the tank would consistently have enough algae to keep it happy and healthy. I'm certain I'll have fights with algae, but the hope is the refugium takes the big edge off of them and keeps them to a minimum. Ounce of prevention > pound of cure is the mentality I'm going on. Perhaps I should swap a firefish out for a tang? The tangs eat algae as well, to my understanding, but I was also fairly sure the firefish are peaceful with each other. I'll research it further. Finally a royal gramma so any unwelcome bristleworms get a proper greeting. Trying to have utilitarian fish that make keeping the tank easier. And then down the road I'll consider an anemone and a pair of clowns. Corals I'm not worried about yet, I'll need to wait about a month before turning the lights on anyways, except in the fuge of course. Does the following seem like a reasonable sequence to add fish? Damsel, tail spot blenny, cleanup crew, remove damsel, royal gramma, ywg/ pistol shrimp (hopefully a paired pair, and put them in at the same time), firefish (however many), tang (might consider putting the tang in earlier if I have any algae issues). Thank you for your insight! And I've been binging BRS videos. I want to be prepared before I start.
 

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