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I have a reef scorpionfish that was delivered today and also a fuzzy dwarf lionfish that's existed for a while. From what I know they should work together but wanted others to chime in before I open the acclimation box
 

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As long as they are similarly sized so that they don't attempt to eat each other that should be fine. If the fuzzy is a large adult already and you add a small new fish, that could end badly.

What's the tank size and size of each fish?

@lion king would have some tips.
 

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Yes they will be fine. As far as the reef scorp goes, they are suppose to be a Scorpaenodes caribbaeus, but many times are misidentified and you end with a Scorpaena brasiliensis. These fish are very similar with the exception of size, the reef scorp stays small and will likely reach around 3-3.5" in captivity, while the barbfish will reach like 5-5.5". Either way they are both great fish that will be fine with a fuzzy. They will likely be fighting for food as they both tend to be gluttons. Keep a lid on the tank as they will jump, so will tge fuzzy in case you didn't know.
 
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As long as they are similarly sized so that they don't attempt to eat each other that should be fine. If the fuzzy is a large adult already and you add a small new fish, that could end badly.

What's the tank size and size of each fish?

@lion king would have some tips.
The scorp is a little bigger and so far they're staying on opposite sides. Right now they're in a 45g cube aio I have a drilled 65g cube but still working out the kinks with getting my sump to sump properly(working from scratch).
 
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Yes they will be fine. As far as the reef scorp goes, they are suppose to be a Scorpaenodes caribbaeus, but many times are misidentified and you end with a Scorpaena brasiliensis. These fish are very similar with the exception of size, the reef scorp stays small and will likely reach around 3-3.5" in captivity, while the barbfish will reach like 5-5.5". Either way they are both great fish that will be fine with a fuzzy. They will likely be fighting for food as they both tend to be gluttons. Keep a lid on the tank as they will jump, so will tge fuzzy in case you didn't know.
If you could identify for me here's probably the best pic I have of the scorpion. I'll try to get a better one later I'm currently in a outtage from a mean storm last night
 

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Some scorps are difficult to identify, I only know the most commonly offered ones, a couple of better pics may help. Scorps are very often misidentified, how big is he now, do you know where he came from. Reef scorpionfish is a common name that is loosely used, it is meant to be the Caribbean scorpionfish(Scorpaenodes caribbaeus).

Here are two different barbfish(Scorpaena brasiliensis), the first one came in as a reef scorp, but after it grew more than 4", I new it was a barbfish. They are very similar, another fish that will sometimes get thrown into the mix, is the spotted scorp(Scorpaena plumieri), but this fish is actually very different. The 2nd pic came in as a barbfish, and in the 3rd pic you'll see they will eat a fish much larger than should.

You will all of these fish may come in brown or shades of grey, but when they are in a healthy tank, eating healthy foods, they will turn shades of red and orange. Click my name and "find all threads" and check out some of my threads on nutrition.

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Some scorps are difficult to identify, I only know the most commonly offered ones, a couple of better pics may help. Scorps are very often misidentified, how big is he now, do you know where he came from. Reef scorpionfish is a common name that is loosely used, it is meant to be the Caribbean scorpionfish(Scorpaenodes caribbaeus).

Here are two different barbfish(Scorpaena brasiliensis), the first one came in as a reef scorp, but after it grew more than 4", I new it was a barbfish. They are very similar, another fish that will sometimes get thrown into the mix, is the spotted scorp(Scorpaena plumieri), but this fish is actually very different. The 2nd pic came in as a barbfish, and in the 3rd pic you'll see they will eat a fish much larger than should.

You will all of these fish may come in brown or shades of grey, but when they are in a healthy tank, eating healthy foods, they will turn shades of red and orange. Click my name and "find all threads" and check out some of my threads on nutrition.

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Sorry again for the late reply, still in a power outage so a lot of back and forth with the generator but it was purchased from addictive reef keeping located marathon,FL so high chance it's was collected in that area. Right now it's about 3 to 4 inches and I notice it actually chases down guppies and wax willing to race the lionfish to the goal. It's actually in a good spot for a picture today.
 

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By no means am I the expert in identification, but I am leaning towards the spotted scorp(Scorpaena plumieri). The reef scorp(Scorpaenodes caribbaeus) at that size would already be full grown and they would generally come in well under 3". The color markings of the reef scorp would be more mottled through out not banded, as well as the pectoral fins would not be banded, here is a picture of an actually reef scorp, does he look like this in person. The spotted scorp is the most common scorp collected in that region. The only draw back to the spotted scorp is that they do get pretty large, so any other tank mates would need to be carefully considered.

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By no means am I the expert in identification, but I am leaning towards the spotted scorp(Scorpaena plumieri). The reef scorp(Scorpaenodes caribbaeus) at that size would already be full grown and they would generally come in well under 3". The color markings of the reef scorp would be more mottled through out not banded, as well as the pectoral fins would not be banded, here is a picture of an actually reef scorp, does he look like this in person. The spotted scorp is the most common scorp collected in that region. The only draw back to the spotted scorp is that they do get pretty large, so any other tank mates would need to be carefully considered.

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Here's video of it before I got it. That's exactly what I see.

 
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Video won't load so here's the picture of it from the site
 

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@i cant think I was going to tag you in on this thread, but I remembered you were in the UK. These are usually collected in Caribbean, Atlantic and even Gulf here in The States. What do you think.
Assuming you mean with the ID, I think you’ve hit it pretty spot on with Plumieri.
 
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Thanks guys looks like I'm gonna have to get my bigger tank setup sooner than I planned. Either that or roll the dice with it living with my spotted moray
 

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