Coral Colors Fading in my First Reef... Help!

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Hi all,

Lately I've noticed the coloration of my corals is not as vibrant. This is my first reef tank and, other than this, everything has been going very well. Corals are open and fish are healthy--just the color has been fading. My torches, pictured below, have started to look somewhat transparent. I know there are many variables here, so I will try to be as thorough as possible in describing tank parameters and other relevant details:

My tank is relatively new, having been set up for a little over 10 weeks. Parameters have been pretty stable for a while now. See my signature for my equipment setup.

Parameters:
Nitrates: 0
pH: 8.2 (stable)
dKH: 9
Ca - 400
Mg - 1350
Salinity - 1.025
Phosphates - 0.03

Media & other details: I use Red Sea Coral Pro Salt and up until last week, had been conducting a roughly 20% water change per week as the tank cycled and stabilized. Now that parameters have been stable for over a month, I will be reducing my WC schedule. About 6 weeks ago I added Seachem's Matrix to my sump (for nitrate reduction) and Seagel (which contains Activated Carbon and Phosguard for phosphate control). Both seem to have worked, as my Nitrates are undetectable and the worst part of the "Uglies" seems to have passed in my young reef. I have a small plum-sized clump of Chaeto in my refugium, but it hasn't grown much since I added it 5 weeks ago. Hair and slime algae have grown plenty on the live rock in the sump, however. I remove that stuff every water change, and it has slowed down in growth in recent weeks.

At first I noticed my green torch was becoming transparent under white lights. Under blues, it's hardly noticeable. Then I noticed my small gold torch coral was also becoming transparent. Now as I look more closely, I suspect most of my corals are also not as bright as they once were... specifically my Green Tree Nephthea, my Zoas and my Acans. All still have color, but it doesn't appear to be as bright as when I first got them.

Here is my Gold Torch that has grown transparent over the last few weeks:
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Here is my Green Torch that has faded the most out of all my corals:
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Here is a wider shot of several corals. The Green Tree Nephthea in the middle has been growing and happy, however it's not as neon as when I first got it. The Metallic Neon Hammer pictured on the right has faded over the last two weeks, not as neon, and the Frogspawn has been pretty much that dull since I got it so that may not be my fault. The Tricolor Torch in center view is brand new, two days in my tank, so it still looks solid. Note the Rainbow Acan at the bottom right that has also lost some color and is almost transparent under white light:
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And here is the Green Torch shortly after it went in my tank. Note how it's much more solid in coloration than now.
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As a new reefer, it's hard to gauge what may or may not be going well in cases like this. So I come to all of you for help. An experienced reefer has helped me in planning, establishing and stocking this tank and with his input, I have come to suspect a few issues that may be responsible for this:

1) LED lighting may have been too strong, and consequently it shocked the corals. This was my first suspicion, as many shops also use LEDs here in Taiwan, and most seem to run them pretty low. I have since turned my MarsAqua 300w fixture down to see if this helps. Previously I'd been running blue channel for 10 hours at 40% and white channel at minimum power for 4 hours. This seemed a conservative approach, based on feedback from others using the same lights. Now I'm not too certain this may be the underlying cause of the color loss, however, as others with similar corals have been running the lights at comparable strength and photo periods with success.

2) The water is too clean. Nitrates dropped pretty rapidly a few weeks ago from 25 ppm to undetectable, and they've remained that way since. Presumably, the Matrix media is at least partially responsible for this. My tank is predominantly LPS/softies and will stay that way. I also feed my fish pretty lightly twice per day, and spot feed my corals 2-3 times per week with high quality frozen marine mysis shrimp.

3) The Phosguard and/or Matrix media is leaching aluminum into my system. Not sure how probably this is, but a friend suspects this may be contributing and advised me to remove these media slowly. I will likely wait and try one approach at a time so I know what is and isn't working.

Please chime in with any feedback or if you've had similar experiences. I know there are many variables in all this, so I've tried to be as thorough as I can to give you an accurate picture of the situation. I want to do my best to restore coloration and get my tank looking as best it can. Thanks for reading!

Gino

P.S. The fish stocking is as follows, if that's relevant: 1 Royal Gramma, 1 Sleeper Banded Goby, 1 Algae Blenny, 2 small Ocellaris Clownfish, 1 Banggai Cardinal, and 2 Blue Green Chromis added today. Inverts: 1 Cleaner Shrimp, 2 hermit crabs. All were added gradually, and all fish have been eating and healthy.
 
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Let your Nitrates go up. .05 - 15 You need some nutritions. Add some Amino Acids .....water to clean... Tank is not mature only ten weeks old..?

Yes, it's a relatively new tank. I will try feeding more heavily to see if Nitrates rise a bit. At this point I'm almost regretting adding the Matrix, as it seems it was a little too effective at removing nitrates.
 

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They don't look that bad to me so maybe they are just adjusting to new lighting and nutrients in your tank. Could be that you light shocked them a bit before taking down light intensity. I'd dim the lights a bit and go up gradually over coming weeks. Tank looks still new or else u are doing great at keeping ur sand clean :) so expect a little browning out or loss of colors in few coming months before everything stabilizes and colors start improving.
 

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As said above they look healthy and pumping up . The lights may be to strong for them. Also as you tank is new it needs time to mature and the corals should settle allot more as time goes on. Great pictures you took :)
 

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What light are you running on your Chaeto? Also it thrives on dirty water so let the Chaeto clean your nitrates.
 

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Yes, it's a relatively new tank. I will try feeding more heavily to see if Nitrates rise a bit. At this point I'm almost regretting adding the Matrix, as it seems it was a little too effective at removing nitrates.

Don't feed to heavily to fast. Least you develop unwanted algae issues.
I would continue feeding as is but lighten up on water changes a bit.
 
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What light are you running on your Chaeto? Also it thrives on dirty water so let the Chaeto clean your nitrates.

I'm running a Par38 LED light on the Chaeto, with good spectrum for plant growth. The Chaeto has barely grown, but I assumed it was because the slime and hair algae had been out-competing it (and choking out light before it could reach the chaeto). At one point the nuisance algae had completely taken over my fuge, but it has since cut back a bit and stabilized.
 
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FYI, here's a full tank shot. Everything looks happy and open, just not as bright as I'd like.
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If you want dim your lights down a little bit but I wouldn't change anything to much corals stress more with to much change in my experience. That said let you corals get used to the current situation as it is your system might still go through a cycle for being just 10 weeks old that alone can affect the corals to.
 

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It is just because your lighting is too strong, turn it down or reduce your photoperiod and observe for a few weeks.
 

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It is just because your lighting is too strong, turn it down or reduce your photoperiod and observe for a few weeks. Your torch corals are going transparent to reduce light absorption since its too strong. That's why they look less transparent under only blues.
 

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I know my tank is relatively young, but can't see why that would affect coloration. All corals are open and happy... parameters are and have been stable for quite some time.
I feel like an old guy or a dad, but, once it's older, you'll understand.:)
The bacterial populations as well as the micro flora and fauna once fully developed in a mature tank actually help to feed the corals and provide an even more stable system. A biosphere on a truly microscopic level.
 
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I feel like an old guy or a dad, but, once it's older, you'll understand.:)
The bacterial populations as well as the micro flora and fauna once fully developed in a mature tank actually help to feed the corals and provide an even more stable system. A biosphere on a truly microscopic level.

Fair enough. I understand that in theory, but don't see how that relates to coloration. I will be patient and run my lights at lower power. I reduced my blue channel from 45% to 15%, with same photoperiod. Is it generally best to stay at the lower power until color restores and then increase incrementally or should I increase power at 5-10% every week from here moving forward?
 

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If the lights are fine dont mess with it imo. If you have a par meter or lux meter try to adjust intensity and kelvin (w/b ratio) for the animals your keeping. A little under is better than over in my observations. Lux meters are cheap too.

but don't see how that relates to coloration
Its overall nutritional health of the animal. you could consider aminos or a feeding scheme to suppliment what isnt in the tank yet.
And yes you acclimation schedule is correct.
 

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And FWIW I dont agree in prophylactic use of No and Po reducers in such a young tank(any actually). The corals and bacteria do actually need those to do thier job and live. Its just become fashionable to have them online nowadays even if there is no problem with either. If you are not sick why take medication.

If you read Randy Farley and look closely at his reefkeeping style he says and does this. Relying on a refugium over gfo as it regulates its self naturally. Lots of nutrients, lots of macro growth and vice versa.
GFO is powerful stuff and strips the water first(nutrient and food delivery to your corals) before pulling it from problem areas like bad rock dirty sand or old tank Po bound rock.
 

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Hm ok , there is kind of a weird balance between several factors in your tank . If your lights are bright, and your nitrates are very low, then your corals will bleach or lose the color b/c the bacteria inside of your corals utilized a little phosphate and nitrate to photosynthesize. (if I'm not wrong) . - If your nutrients are high and your light is on the brighter side then you will experience deeper colors (a bit more brown) and better growth. - If your nutrients are high but your light is low, your corals will usually be more on the brown side and will grow slowly. However there are a lot of other variables that play a role in that . For example high light + high alkalinity + very low nutrients will burn the tips on some of the SPS corals. Another thing is that , some corals just don't like too much light. For example i have a big colony of hammers and frogspawn thats under the ledge and that ledge is under the frag rack and that frag rack is filled with ton of frags. I think last time i measured par in that spot it was like 46. ( some other variables could be , your lights are a bit more white, so you don't see the pop, or your tank is just new , or a particular coral is in a wrong spot) but this is just my opinion
 

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