Frogspawn bailing and dying quick! HELP Half gone.

[Chrisv.]

Yeah I have no idea what the people who claim to see what you are talking about saw. It's true that the coral would be better off with a thick healthy flesh band, but this coral is not in urgent need of anything. I agree that the algae is a problem. The lights on pictures show a coral that is not in immediate crisis. A lot of maricultured frogspawn and torches come in with almost no flesh band.

 

[crazyfishmom]

The return is 280 GPH and I also have a Jebaohidden behind my nem box. My jebao says it runs 660 but I run it at 25%. So I think total turnover is around 400gph

How many gallons is your tank? That 400 gph is max, it is likely half that and then you need to divide it by the number of gallons in the tank to get an accurate measure of turnover.

I agree with the rest of the commenters in that the algae is likely irritating the coral. Bailout is when the tissue from inside the head, the polyps, are all gone and it tends to happen overnight. This is tissue recession. Having this much algae on the skeleton suggests a nutrient imbalance and little to no cleanup crew.

 

[Pico_Reefs]

I have used iodine and restor to help my euphyllia. I have done as follows.

4:1 hydrogen peroxide dip for 10 minutes
Iodine and restor dip for entire dark cycle
Rinse in 10:1 hydrogen peroxide

This has really helped me. I recently did this on a frogspawn and it’s right back to where it was. I also mix restor in when feeding all euphyllia.

 

[Pico_Reefs]

I have used iodine and restor to help my euphyllia. I have done as follows.

4:1 hydrogen peroxide dip for 10 minutes
Iodine and restor dip for entire dark cycle
Rinse in 10:1 hydrogen peroxide
Do this for 5 to 7 days

This has really helped me. I recently did this on a frogspawn and it’s right back to where it was. I also mix restor in when feeding all euphyllia.

 

[zach_jb69]

So with the amount of algae covering the Skelton it’s been like that for a while.
Red arrow - the tissue does look receded but there is a ton of algea
Black arrows I see tissue

Again this didn’t happen over night.

This isn’t polyp bailout though. And it’s possible that it recovers.
I have had worse recover although they didn’t have that much algae growth.


You need to get a phosphate test and check that

The algae ofc didn’t happen overnight, though the tissue receding like this probably took place max 2 days

 

[zach_jb69]

I have used iodine and restor to help my euphyllia. I have done as follows.

4:1 hydrogen peroxide dip for 10 minutes
Iodine and restor dip for entire dark cycle
Rinse in 10:1 hydrogen peroxide

This has really helped me. I recently did this on a frogspawn and it’s right back to where it was. I also mix restor in when feeding all euphyllia.

4:1 saltwater to peroxide?

 

[Reefing_addiction]

The algae ofc didn’t happen overnight, though the tissue receding like this probably took place max 2 days

Not with that algae growth on the skeleton it’s been like that for more than two days

tissue generally goes down the skeleton when it recedes you see BRIGHT white skeleton all I see is algae

Stop freaking out because your frogs being cranky. Get rid of the algae and it’s probably be less cranky but honestly it looks fine

 

[Reefing_addiction]

4:1 saltwater to peroxide?

Your better off dosing peroxide to the tank to kill the algae everywhere

But really your best bet is to see where your numbers are off and fix that. Get a better CUC to help.

Dont go pulling that frog off the rock to dip it your more likely to make it mad and hurt it more….

 

[zach_jb69]

How many gallons is your tank? That 400 gph is max, it is likely half that and then you need to divide it by the number of gallons in the tank to get an accurate measure of turnover.

I agree with the rest of the commenters in that the algae is likely irritating the coral. Bailout is when the tissue from inside the head, the polyps, are all gone and it tends to happen overnight. This is tissue recession. Having this much algae on the skeleton suggests a nutrient imbalance and little to no cleanup crew.

It’s 15, the 286 gph plus the wave maker can make way over that I’m pretty sure. But
Regular pump makes 18x. 280/15 = 18 plus my Jebao is 660gph but I run 37.5%=244gph. 244+286=530 530/15gallons=35x??

 

[zach_jb69]

Not with that algae growth on the skeleton it’s been like that for more than two days

tissue generally goes down the skeleton when it recedes you see BRIGHT white skeleton all I see is algae

Stop freaking out because your frogs being cranky. Get rid of the algae and it’s probably be less cranky but honestly it looks fine

This was way more than a month ago and there wasn’t even a band. It’s been like that since I remember. That’s why the algae grew up to the top crown. There was no band. Torches and the rest of my euphilia do but not this one

 

[Reefing_addiction]

This was way more than a month ago and there wasn’t even a band. It’s been like that since I remember. That’s why the algae grew up to the top crown. There was no band. Torches and the rest of my euphilia do but not this one

That hammer/frog at the front looks to have tissue recession from how white the Skelton appears beneath the heads.

Did you check your phosphates?

 

[Reefing_addiction]

And FYI they can (hammers frogs and torches), given the proper environment, gain that tissue back.

 

[Pico_Reefs]

4:1 saltwater to peroxide?

I mix everything in 1gallon increments

Yes. 3 parts saltwater 1 part hydrogen peroxide.

Do a prewash in the solution for about 15 minutes gently agitating my blowing the solution on the coral.

After place in the solution of:
1 gallon saltwater
10 drops of Brightwell Lugols Solution
1 capful of Brightwell Restor
2 scoops of Chemiclean (not required)
Let soak over the dark cycle

Post dip wash in a diluted mix of saltwater and hydrogen peroxide 10:1

Repeat this for several days. I would start with 5. Depending on how cold it is I may add a heater. If you have a small HOB filter I would run it with no media and low flow only.

I do not use a filter.