Gem Tang quarantine question pest ID

NarcoReefer

New Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 8, 2024
Messages
5
Reaction score
1
Location
Los Angeles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
IMG_2179.jpeg
Hey guys,

I’ve had this gem in copper QT for about two weeks. He’s eating great and has put on noticeable mass since. It is active all day and is even territorial when I linger in front of the tank.

This is my first Gem so not sure if the spots on him are just natural coloration or if it could potentially be flukes or something else. Can I please get your thoughts on the slow mo video I uploaded? Thanks guys!

QT Set up- 20 gal long
35ppt
2.3 copper power
78 temp
sponge filter w/ air stone
IMG_2178.jpeg
 
Last edited:

Jekyl

GSP is the devil and clowns are bad pets
View Badges
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
11,786
Reaction score
16,173
Location
Michigan
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Can you please post the video to YouTube and supply the link? Having issue with the video.
 

vetteguy53081

Well known Member and monster tank lover
View Badges
Joined
Aug 11, 2013
Messages
92,517
Reaction score
204,756
Location
Wisconsin -
Rating - 100%
14   0   0
Hey guys,

I’ve had this gem in copper QT for about two weeks. He’s eating great and has put on noticeable mass since. It is active all day and is even territorial when I linger in front of the tank.

This is my first Gem so not sure if the spots on him are just natural coloration or if it could potentially be flukes or something else. Can I please get your thoughts on the slow mo video I uploaded? Thanks guys!

QT Set up- 20 gal long
35ppt
2.3 copper power
78 temp
sponge filter w/ air stone
Always a tough fish to detect disease on but from pic- I see stress spots which can be from intimidation from tank mate, water quality issue or just scared
Lower white intensity to keep it relaxed and see if spots subside
 

Jay Hemdal

10K Club member
View Badges
Joined
Jul 31, 2020
Messages
26,206
Reaction score
25,975
Location
Dundee, MI
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
IMG_2179.jpeg
Hey guys,

I’ve had this gem in copper QT for about two weeks. He’s eating great and has put on noticeable mass since. It is active all day and is even territorial when I linger in front of the tank.

This is my first Gem so not sure if the spots on him are just natural coloration or if it could potentially be flukes or something else. Can I please get your thoughts on the slow mo video I uploaded? Thanks guys!

QT Set up- 20 gal long
35ppt
2.3 copper power
78 temp
sponge filter w/ air stone
IMG_2178.jpeg

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

Is the tang alone in the QT?
What is the ammonia level of the tank?
How long have the spots been present?

This could be a skin reaction to flukes. At some point, you'll want to treat for that. I try not to dose copper and fluke medications at the same time though. Flukes take longer to harm the fish than do protozoan diseases, so it is best to continue the copper and deal with it later as long as the fish isn't showing other symptoms (not eating, breathing fast, incessant scratching or cloudy eyes).
 
OP
OP
N

NarcoReefer

New Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 8, 2024
Messages
5
Reaction score
1
Location
Los Angeles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Always a tough fish to detect disease on but from pic- I see stress spots which can be from intimidation from tank mate, water quality issue or just scared
Lower white intensity to keep it relaxed and see if spots subside

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

Is the tang alone in the QT?
What is the ammonia level of the tank?
How long have the spots been present?

This could be a skin reaction to flukes. At some point, you'll want to treat for that. I try not to dose copper and fluke medications at the same time though. Flukes take longer to harm the fish than do protozoan diseases, so it is best to continue the copper and deal with it later as long as the fish isn't showing other symptoms (not eating, breathing fast, incessant scratching or cloudy eyes).
Thanks for the warm welcome and quick response!

He is in QT alone.
Ammonia is <0.02 ppm
Spots come and go but I would say about a week max.
I did a fresh water dip but freaked out cause he started playing dead. Only lasted about a minute. (I later read they tend to do this)

I plan on treating with Prazipro in about a week.
Would you recommend otherwise?

I’ve noticed that when bright whites come on he turns pale white/brownish color. I did lower the lights significantly to blues and he definitely seems more relaxed.

here’s a better picture taken just now
IMG_2192.jpeg
 

MnFish1

10K Club member
View Badges
Joined
Dec 28, 2016
Messages
23,061
Reaction score
22,128
Location
Midwest
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
Thanks for the warm welcome and quick response!

He is in QT alone.
Ammonia is <0.02 ppm
Spots come and go but I would say about a week max.
I did a fresh water dip but freaked out cause he started playing dead. Only lasted about a minute. (I later read they tend to do this)

I plan on treating with Prazipro in about a week.
Would you recommend otherwise?

I’ve noticed that when bright whites come on he turns pale white/brownish color. I did lower the lights significantly to blues and he definitely seems more relaxed.

here’s a better picture taken just now
IMG_2192.jpeg
The picture you just showed look like stress coloration. The other ones look different (i.e. like possible flukes) - as long as it looks healthy , I would proceed with quarantine protocol (you are using copper now, the next step is prazipro which will help if there are flukes. BTW - when I say 'stress' - it can be something as simple as the lights coming on in the morning. Do they go away in the daytime? moving 'small' spots the reappear could be ich - but you're treating for that. The larger white areas do not look like ich.
 

vetteguy53081

Well known Member and monster tank lover
View Badges
Joined
Aug 11, 2013
Messages
92,517
Reaction score
204,756
Location
Wisconsin -
Rating - 100%
14   0   0
Thanks for the warm welcome and quick response!

He is in QT alone.
Ammonia is <0.02 ppm
Spots come and go but I would say about a week max.
I did a fresh water dip but freaked out cause he started playing dead. Only lasted about a minute. (I later read they tend to do this)

I plan on treating with Prazipro in about a week.
Would you recommend otherwise?

I’ve noticed that when bright whites come on he turns pale white/brownish color. I did lower the lights significantly to blues and he definitely seems more relaxed.

here’s a better picture taken just now
IMG_2192.jpeg
Yes on prazi. Apply initial dose at 85% of recommended and allow to remain 8 days, do a water change and apply one more dose for 8 days
It’s important to run an airstone during treatment as prazi reduces oxygen
 

Jay Hemdal

10K Club member
View Badges
Joined
Jul 31, 2020
Messages
26,206
Reaction score
25,975
Location
Dundee, MI
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Thanks for the warm welcome and quick response!

He is in QT alone.
Ammonia is <0.02 ppm
Spots come and go but I would say about a week max.
I did a fresh water dip but freaked out cause he started playing dead. Only lasted about a minute. (I later read they tend to do this)

I plan on treating with Prazipro in about a week.
Would you recommend otherwise?

I’ve noticed that when bright whites come on he turns pale white/brownish color. I did lower the lights significantly to blues and he definitely seems more relaxed.

here’s a better picture taken just now
IMG_2192.jpeg
The larger white spots, with the lower ones in a row and the upper row slightly angled is the stress/night coloration that this species shows. The first picture seemed to show sort of raised pinhead spots, those are something else.
 

Making aqua concoctions: Have you ever tried the Reef Moonshiner Method?

  • I currently use the moonshiner method.

    Votes: 48 21.1%
  • I don’t currently use the moonshiner method, but I have in the past.

    Votes: 4 1.8%
  • I have not used the moonshiner method.

    Votes: 165 72.4%
  • Other.

    Votes: 11 4.8%
Back
Top