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Sure, here you go. Both are about 3 years now? And that's with me actively trimming the front one and the back one surviving a RTN where I lost half of the colony.I think I'm going to pick up a green slimmer and a tenuis this weekend. They look really cool. I really like that up and out shape of the tenuis. @Dkmoo if you could put a picture of your tank now that would be really cool to see what it would look like in your tank. And if you have AI lights I would like to know your presets. Hope that's not too much to ask but I really appreciate everyone's help.