Insane and unstable over 1 year.

[alexanderthefishlover]

You can pour anything in your tank you wish.

You keep coming to this site and asking for help, then insulting the people trying to help you.



What part of "The algaecide that you are using is harming beneficial organisms in your system and keeping it a state of perpetual imbalance" are you not understanding? For goodness sake, Julian Sprung's book on the subject was cited and you called him unqualified.

How can anybody begin to help you when you already have all of the answers?

I do not have all the answers at all hence why I’ve asked for accredited help

 

[00W]

Your decision to take fact as an insult isn’t my problem to worry about. Grow up grow a pair and accept that people don’t need to heed your advice

Completely uncool bro.
Not cool at all.

 

[alexanderthefishlover]

You can pour anything in your tank you wish.

You keep coming to this site and asking for help, then insulting the people trying to help you.



What part of "The algaecide that you are using is harming beneficial organisms in your system and keeping it a state of perpetual imbalance" are you not understanding? For goodness sake, Julian Sprung's book on the subject was cited and you called him unqualified.

How can anybody begin to help you when you already have all of the answers?

Second dose, huge difference no dino no hair algae and macro is fine no damage done thus far. Doesn’t seems so dangerous again

 

[alexanderthefishlover]

Completely uncool bro.
Not cool at all.

Im not one to care about being cool. You don’t get far trying to impress others. I’m candid and I speak my mind.

I think honesty is admirable no matter whom it offends.

 

[00W]

Im not one to care about being cool. You don’t get far trying to impress others. I’m candid and I speak my mind.

I think honesty is admirable no matter whom it offends.

This was not speaking your mind.
In any way.
It's being disrespectful.
In every way.
I help people all day.
That's what I do.
Feel free to visit my thread where grown men and women help each other in a respectful, grown up loving way.

 

[BeanAnimal]

Yet the developers of the product who did lab studies have said it doesn’t. See why it’s hard to take your belief as fact? Anyways. I’m over this crap.

Can you site those studies and the developer or do you just believe the bottle and the LFS that it was marketed to to market to you?

You want to question the collective experience and knowledge of all of us, let alone Julian Sprung... but believe the marketing on a bottle as trusted "science"? Do you trust all marketing, or just the marketing you believe?

Second dose, huge difference no dino no hair algae and macro is fine no damage done thus far. Doesn’t seems so dangerous again

It is POOL ALGAECIDE alexander. It was not developed for reef tanks. It is marketed to people such as yourself as a quick fix. Like any other treatment or method, it comes with side effects. It is not magic. Yes, it will kill algae, it is algaecide after all. But not all algae in your system is bad or should be killed and not all algae is affected by the chemical. It DOES NOT HOWEVER just target "bad algae".


Here is what I now. Your aquarium is a mess. You keep doing the same thing over and over, and coming here for help to clean up the mess. There people trying to help you are successful and you are failing. Learn something from that.

 

[alexanderthefishlover]

Can you site those studies and the developer or do you just believe the bottle and the LFS that it was marketed to to market to you?

You want to question the collective experience and knowledge of all of us, let alone Julian Sprung... but believe the marketing on a bottle as trusted "science"? Do you trust all marketing, or just the marketing you believe?



It is POOL ALGAECIDE alexander. It was not developed for reef tanks. It is marketed to people such as yourself as a quick fix. Like any other treatment or method, it comes with side effects. It is not magic. Yes, it will kill algae, it is algaecide after all. But not all algae in your system is bad or should be killed and not all algae is affected by the chemical. It DOES NOT HOWEVER just target "bad algae".


Here is what I now. Your aquarium is a mess. You keep doing the same thing over and over, and coming here for help to clean up the mess. There people trying to help you are successful and you are failing. Learn something from that.

Good god can’t read all of that. I had beautiful green algae growth, coraline algae growth last time so It seems to be a selective algaecide given the fact algae other than brown algae grew during the 10 dosingS LOL.

I have macro in there second dose no harm done thus far. I think you’re blowing the product way out of proportion. Germans made it and I trust my people.

 

[BeanAnimal]

Good god can’t read all of that. I had beautiful green algae growth, coraline algae growth last time so It seems to be a selective algaecide given the fact algae other than brown algae grew during the 10 dosingS LOL.

I have macro in there second dose no harm done thus far. I think you’re blowing the product way out of proportion. Germans made it and I trust my people.

So the guy who only trusts science... can't cite the science, but "German's made it" so it must be good.

I linked a thread above - it lists the chemical. Follow that link and other and read the huge vibrant thread. Educate yourself with the actual science if you wish. It has already been relayed to you, but go read it for yourself.

I think would argue with a lead pipe if you ran into it...

 

[alexanderthefishlover]

Can you site those studies and the developer or do you just believe the bottle and the LFS that it was marketed to to market to you?

You want to question the collective experience and knowledge of all of us, let alone Julian Sprung... but believe the marketing on a bottle as trusted "science"? Do you trust all marketing, or just the marketing you believe?



It is POOL ALGAECIDE alexander. It was not developed for reef tanks. It is marketed to people such as yourself as a quick fix. Like any other treatment or method, it comes with side effects. It is not magic. Yes, it will kill algae, it is algaecide after all. But not all algae in your system is bad or should be killed and not all algae is affected by the chemical. It DOES NOT HOWEVER just target "bad algae".


Here is what I now. Your aquarium is a mess. You keep doing the same thing over and over, and coming here for help to clean up the mess. There people trying to help you are successful and you are failing. Learn something from that.

J sprung had the confidence to write a book? Ok? And? Guess what, many others didn’t and I can speculate as to why. Probably not enough evidence to state things as fact in a book that can come back to make them look untrustworthy.

That’s just my mere speciations. If the data was so widespread and factual. It would be everywhere and everyone would have a book out about it. The market would be saturated in books about this LOL.

 

[alexanderthefishlover]

So the guy who only trusts science... can't cite the science, but "German's made it" so it must be good.

You would argue with a lead pipe if you ran into it...

I would go to their website and read about it. You’re a grown man evidently. Can’t you do that yourself?

 

[alexanderthefishlover]

So the guy who only trusts science... can't cite the science, but "German's made it" so it must be good.

You would argue with a lead pipe if you ran into it...

Germans make the best products from cars, chemicals to you name it. So yes, I have trust in German products and I have trust in my people whom make them. I trust when they say it doesn’t affect corals when doses correctly and I trust when they say it targets golden and brown algae’s and not more complex types like some macro.

I experienced last time exactly this. Green algae grew, had coraline for the first time. If it was non selective it would not have allowed for these to populate.

 

[mwdomino]

Just as general life advice you may not want to trust someone selling a product to give an honest review of that product. I can sell you Magic Reef Drops that I have verified, in a double blind study, will eradicate all nuisance algae while leaving your biome completely healthy and balanced.

I’m willing to part with it for $99.99/mo, and as a proud German I can vouch that it works and there are absolutely no side effects.

 

[Keithb22]

Diesel Gate, Germans made the best product and were truthful about it the entire time. This has been a great read. I could go on about how inept you are but I’ll just wait for the barrage of hilarity you post in response

 

[Reefering1]

I understand the risk vs benefit short term. I do not think longterm there is drastic issues that come from the use of these chemicals. I actually had green alage growing during Dino x treatment course. So, I do not believe it kills everything it kills what it’s meant to target.

I don’t appreciate people telling me what to do without scientific proof it works.

I just do not have the time to fiddle with the aquarium for months

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

I got bored a quarter of the way through.

not critique my decisions

I’m full of it

Grow up grow a pair

Wow!
Everybody has been so patient, offering a solid path to success, and this is how you act. SMH.
So ill try this a different way...
You're a clown; a ignorant, closed minded, impatient, half as sing son of a mother..
This hobby isn't for everybody, you might like skydiving. Success or failure determined in minutes.... maybe drain the tank and get a snake or lizard.(?) But you're not going to replicate the ecosystem of a reef, in 6 months, if you keep poisoning it. Simple

 

[BeanAnimal]

I would go to their website and read about it. You’re a grown man evidently. Can’t you do that yourself?

I am not the one trusting or touting their "science" or hanging my hat on it, you are.

You said you only trust science that you can verify. You didn't verify their science, because they didn't publish any. They have usage instructions and broad claims. It is called marketing.

I am also saying that if you had read and understood just some of the science regarding algae, marine systems and algaecides affects, you would understand that there us a lot more going on in the biome than you think.

The fact that you are still attempting to discredit somebody like Julian Sprung's work as not being scientifically valid enough to take advice from, but do trust some random "German" product that has no published science, indicates why we are here.

I honestly suggest going and getting a few of Julian's books. You will have a nice reef, not algae soup

 

[ShawnSaucier]

I can’t get a hold of live products in BC Canada the way you can in the US and Florida directly for example. I did the best I could for choices available here.

I’m glad it worked for you and so far the rocks I was actually able to get from the ocean directly, I have had no issues in the 10 gallon.

The rocks in the 30 are manmade sustainable rocks that they sell here and they are evidently crap.

Hope you keep going with good experiences

What you have is fine and will work, it just takes a bit Extra. A little extra patience, a little extra work, and a lot more patience.

We have all gone through issues with our systems, and those mistakes are how we learn. Nothing worse than starting your morning with 300g of stark white corals, forgetting to turn off an RODI filter and flooding the apartment below.

You have some great recommendations on here. , it’s just not going to happen over night, but it will work if you put in the work. And not the algaecide, lol

 

[alexanderthefishlover]

Wow!
Everybody has been so patient, offering a solid path to success, and this is how you act. SMH.
So ill try this a different way...
You're a clown; a ignorant, closed minded, impatient, half as sing son of a mother..
This hobby isn't for everybody, you might like skydiving. Success or failure determined in minutes.... maybe drain the tank and get a snake or lizard.(?) But you're not going to replicate the ecosystem of a reef, in 6 months, if you keep poisoning it. Simple

An * not “a” ignorant.

Perhaps I am ignorant, arrogant, close minded and impatient. That’s totally fine I have no intent on changing who I am because an overly-sensitive-grown-man was offended by me .

Clown? Well never been called that one, not sure what a clown is in reference to this but ok

I’ve been in aquaria for 15 years. This is a hobby that I love though saltwater has proven to be more challenging. I do not give up, even though at times I feel like I may. That’s not how you succeed in life.

 

[alexanderthefishlover]

I am not the one trusting or touting their "science" or hanging my hat on it, you are.

You said you only trust science that you can verify. You didn't verify their science, because they didn't publish any. They have usage instructions and broad claims. It is called marketing.

I am also saying that if you had read and understood just some of the science regarding algae, marine systems and algaecides affects, you would understand that there us a lot more going on in the biome than you think.

The fact that you are still attempting to discredit somebody like Julian Sprung's work as not being scientifically valid enough to take advice from, but do trust some random "German" product that has no published science, indicates why we are here.

I honestly suggest going and getting a few of Julian's books. You will have a nice reef, not algae soup

There are videos online of the company talking about the product. Can’t remember if it was in German or English. Anyways, made me more confident in using it.

 

[exnisstech]

After following this thread for the entertainment value I find I'm no longer grumpy. Thanks Alexander, you may not be able to get your tank straightened out but your threads sure are fun to follow. Kudos to all of you who have the patience to interact with this guy and offer assistance. I don't have that level of patience but I'm not about to leave now this is getting good

 

[BeanAnimal]

There are videos online of the company talking about the product. Can’t remember if it was in German or English. Anyways, made me more confident in using it.

That is not science, it is marketing. The guy doing the marketing is less trustworthy then the people giving you FREE advice.

He is trying to sell you something.
We are trying to help you.