Kanaplex

[Mr Phu]

I have use 2 round Kana plex after 1 night of second round i saw the fish no have any bacterial infection issues . So should i have to use the third round of kana plex ?

 

[*GAREEF*]

How long did you wait between each round?

 

[Mr Phu]

How long did you wait between each round?

I dose like Seachem Direction, first dose and than 48 hour for second dose . Now i am in first day of second dose

 

[*GAREEF*]

I would recommend the third round just to make sure.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I have use 2 round Kana plex after 1 night of second round i saw the fish no have any bacterial infection issues . So should i have to use the third round of kana plex ?

The standard dose for Kanamycin is 50 to 100 mg kanamycin per gallon every three days for three treatments, with a partial water change prior to treatments 2 and 3.

 

[Mr Phu]

The standard dose for Kanamycin is 50 to 100 mg kanamycin per gallon every three days for three treatments, with a partial water change prior to treatments 2 and 3.

I have some question Sir
- The Seacham said each dose is 40 hours , as u said 3 day any confuse in there ??
- The seachem also said no need to change water for ech round treatment , tomorrow i will done the second round should i have to change water for third round ??
- Should i have to use third round ?? Now the fish is no more bacterial issues
I update the fishes until now below the vid

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I have some question Sir
- The Seacham said each dose is 40 hours , as u said 3 day any confuse in there ??
- The seachem also said no need to change water for ech round treatment , tomorrow i will done the second round should i have to change water for third round ??
- Should i have to use third round ?? Now the fish is no more bacterial issues
I update the fishes until now below the vid

The Seachem instructions do not follow the instructions in Noga's book. He is one of the premier fish veterinarians, so I would follow his treatment plan over Seachem's. You should understand that none of these aquarium companies have extensive research labs, they produce products and treatment plans based on what they have read and think is correct. Mistakes in their instructions are pretty common.

With antibiotics, your doctor will tell you that you need to run a full course of a treatment, even if you see an improvement (this applies to fish as well as to humans)

 

[Malcontent]

If you followed the instructions, you end up with a dose less than 2 mg/L. If so, I'd worry about using too little rather than too much...

 

[Jay Hemdal]

If you followed the instructions, you end up with a dose less than 2 mg/L. If so, I'd worry about using too little rather than too much...

Do you know the size of their "scoop"? The entire package only weighs 5 grams, so off the cuff, I would say it only treats 25 gallons one time at the lower 50 mg/l dose!

I normally have people use Neomycin, but other people here like to suggest Kanamycin. I buy my fish medications in bulk, so I'm not familiar with retail packaging, but this is really egregious.

 

[Malcontent]

Do you know the size of their "scoop"? The entire package only weighs 5 grams, so off the cuff, I would say it only treats 25 gallons one time at the lower 50 mg/l dose!

Apparently, they changed it from 180 to 125 mg a few years ago.

That lowered the dose from an already way too low 2.85 to 1.98 mg/L (assuming 31.7% purity per their SDS).

I found this screenshot on another forum where someone inquired about the vast difference in dosing. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

 

[*GAREEF*]

Apparently, they changed it from 180 to 125 mg a few years ago.

That lowered the dose from an already way too low 2.85 to 1.98 mg/L (assuming 31.7% purity per their SDS).

I found this screenshot on another forum where someone inquired about the vast difference in dosing. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

That’s interesting. I’ve used it several times over the years and always followed the directions and it’s always worked.
I worked at a Petco many moons ago and the manager would Doa anything that came in looking bad but I would take them home and treat them. I literally had wall to wall tanks going in my basement…lol
Also, I didn’t do the water changes afterwards.
Guess I was lucky or something because I’ve cured well over a hundred fish with this product through out the years.

 

[vetteguy53081]

That’s interesting. I’ve used it several times over the years and always followed the directions and it’s always worked.
I worked at a Petco many moons ago and the manager would Doa anything that came in looking bad but I would take them home and treat them. I literally had wall to wall tanks going in my basement…lol
Also, I didn’t do the water changes afterwards.
Guess I was lucky or something.

I know PETCO training which is minimal and the instructions from manufacturer are vague as also applies to Hikari Product. Lucky may be part of it as would be fresh seawater versus the system water at the store

 

[vetteguy53081]

I have some question Sir
- The Seacham said each dose is 40 hours , as u said 3 day any confuse in there ??
- The seachem also said no need to change water for ech round treatment , tomorrow i will done the second round should i have to change water for third round ??
- Should i have to use third round ?? Now the fish is no more bacterial issues
I update the fishes until now below the vid

You are once again going by package recommendations which I told you does not give enough information and does not consider your useable gallons, type of occupants in tank and only a general application which may not be specific to your issue. Firthermore, they are adding a smaller spoon to the package, but did not change the dosage on the package. Our medic team is giving you information and you are still going by package istruction and wasting valuable time to get these fish healed.
I realize you want to get these fish healed but at same token, please utilize the info given and allow these fish to recover properly. These meds take 2 days to start working making time of essence. If you have not already, add an air stone for added oxygen.

 

[*GAREEF*]

I know PETCO training which is minimal and the instructions from manufacturer are vague as also applies to Hikari Product. Lucky may be part of it as would be fresh seawater versus the system water at the store

Thank you good to know.

 

[Malcontent]

KanaPlex is one of the go-to antibiotics, especially for Columnaris in freshwater but this isn't supported by data.

It's often recommended that it be combined with nitrofuran for a synergistic effect yet there are no papers that support that idea--only for aminoglycosides and penicillins.