Radion g6 pro vs blue

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I’m not completely sure what you’re asking here. I understand your directions but I’m not understanding the need for the mobius screenshot.
I‘m just asking for this one screenshot so see the graphic (difference) …

I also can adjust my lights by par meter, and i don’t wanna new discussion about pro and blue… it’s just a …. I would like to know whether in the blue version an ab+ or wwc schedule in the left graphic reaches the set intensity of the right slider. that's all.
 

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How does ab+ on pros have lower par?

Definitely find out if you’ll run the AB spectrum. If you want more of a halide (white) look get the pro. If you end up getting pro and find yourself running AB spectrum more, you’re losing out on PAR/efficiency.

Try looking at both spectrums in person (go look at a pro and look at it at full spectrum and then AB)
 

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There must be a difference… so again, here is ab+ @100% on a G6 xr30 pro. I think the overall intensity reached round about ~ 70%.

If someone has the same screen from a „blue“ xr30 pls
 

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How does ab+ on pros have lower par?
Because there’s more white LEDs than Blues. AB+ is by default what the Blues are tuned to with their LED count (all LEDs on full); with Pros you’re running Blues all the way up with less white and there’s less blue LEDs to begin with.
 

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I‘m just asking for this one screenshot so see the graphic (difference) …

I also can adjust my lights by par meter, and i don’t wanna new discussion about pro and blue… it’s just a …. I would like to know whether in the blue version an ab+ or wwc schedule in the left graphic reaches the set intensity of the right slider. that's all.
Blues would fair better with 1500g SPS as it’s heavy blue - more blue than AB+. The 1500g SPS schedule has even all my whites turned off.

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There must be a difference… so again, here is ab+ @100% on a G6 xr30 pro. I think the overall intensity reached round about ~ 70%.

If someone has the same screen from a „blue“ xr30 pls
If those are blues and every channel is on 100% (which is what AB+ on blues are) then you just set the point intensity where you want the PAR to be. Schedule intensity just shifts the whole graph down for ease of adjusting, but each individual point in the schedule has an intensity separate for the color chosen.

For example here’s my graph because I run 50% because any higher is too much PAR. But notice all channels are on 100%. I can run overall point intensity at 100% if I choose to, but you need more fixtures if you need to run 100% to achieve your PAR goals.

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If those are blues and every channel is on 100% (which is what AB+ on blues are) then you just set the point intensity where you want the PAR to be. Schedule intensity just shifts the whole graph down for ease of adjusting, but each individual point in the schedule has an intensity separate for the color chosen.

For example here’s my graph because I run 50% because any higher is too much PAR. But notice all channels are on 100%. I can run overall point intensity at 100% if I choose to, but you need more fixtures if you need to run 100% to achieve your PAR goals.

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Thank you very much, maybe my old school english is too bad, to explain what I’m looking for.

I should buy a blue version, set ab+ and take a look , then send back the lamp. idk ‍

salty greetings
 

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Thank you very much, maybe my old school english is too bad, to explain what I’m looking for.

I should buy a blue version, set ab+ and take a look , then send back the lamp. idk ‍

salty greetings
Simplest recommendation - if you’re going to run a more blue heavy schedule get the Blues, and if you’re going to run a more white spectrum get the Pros.
 

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Do you like all these blue tanks?

Or do you like a more natural look?
Let me say… i have allready buy 4 pieces of xr30 pro. Since i had them running, it feels like the corals love the blue…

And i won‘t sell them to buy 4 xr30 blues…

All i wanna ask, is a simply screenshot from a Radion xr30 blue with ab+ or wwc is running at.

I think that’s a big difference if a pro lamp running ab+ using 135 watts and the same schedule running on a blue use full power @ 100%

That’s all what i wanna see
 

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Let me say… i have allready buy 4 pieces of xr30 pro. Since i had them running, it feels like the corals love the blue…

And i won‘t sell them to buy 4 xr30 blues…

All i wanna ask, is a simply screenshot from a Radion xr30 blue with ab+ or wwc is running at.

I think that’s a big difference if a pro lamp running ab+ using 135 watts and the same schedule running on a blue use full power @ 100%

That’s all what i wanna see
You’re making this way harder than it needs to be. Just load the profile you want to use, and use a PAR meter to adjust point intensity to where you are making the PAR you have as your goals. It’s the only way. Trying to gauge based on other’s setups will not work. You can do it the old school method and keep slowly increasing the intensity over time until corals start bleaching and then reduce them,
Or just get a PAR meter and figure out how much PAR the spectrum you’re running is making.
 

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You’re making this way harder than it needs to be. Just load the profile you want to use, and use a PAR meter to adjust point intensity to where you are making the PAR you have as your goals. It’s the only way. Trying to gauge based on other’s setups will not work. You can do it the old school method and keep slowly increasing the intensity over time until corals start bleaching and then reduce them,
Or just get a PAR meter and figure out how much PAR the spectrum you’re running is making.
Sorry, I think you misunderstood me. I have an Apogee mq 510. I also have no problem setting par values. I also don't need other people's setups... I wanted to see a screenshot of the blue version and see how much better the lamp performs with the ab+. Compared to the "pro" version. super simple, but is completely misinterpreted here.
 

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I wanted to see a screenshot of the blue version and see how much better the lamp performs with the ab+. Compared to the "pro" version. super simple, but is completely misinterpreted here.
the Blues will have all channels at 100% while the Pros will have all the blues at 100% and the whites and other channels turned down.
 

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I run both pros (3) and blues (4). Gives me the best of both.

How well visually do the Pro and Blues blend when mounting next to each other? I have 3 Pro’s and I’m thinking of adding 2 Blues. So starting from 1 end in a line, it would be Pro-Blue-Pro-Blue-Pro. I am also running 4 T5’s (blue plus). This is on a 72x28x30 tank. My Par is just under where I want it to be in various areas with the 3 Pro’s set to 95% intensity with every channel at 100% except for red, green and whites which are at 25%. If crank up my whites to 100%, it only gives 50 more Par in all areas and it’s way too white. Plus I don’t think my Acros will like too much of the white. I’m thinking the overlapping light with 2 additional fixtures and being the blue will push me to the Par I want, however I’m concerned with color blending of the Pros with Blues.
 

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How well visually do the Pro and Blues blend when mounting next to each other? I have 3 Pro’s and I’m thinking of adding 2 Blues. So starting from 1 end in a line, it would be Pro-Blue-Pro-Blue-Pro. I am also running 4 T5’s (blue plus). This is on a 72x28x30 tank. My Par is just under where I want it to be in various areas with the 3 Pro’s set to 95% intensity with every channel at 100% except for red, green and whites which are at 25%. If crank up my whites to 100%, it only gives 50 more Par in all areas and it’s way too white. Plus I don’t think my Acros will like too much of the white. I’m thinking the overlapping light with 2 additional fixtures and being the blue will push me to the Par I want, however I’m concerned with color blending of the Pros with Blues.
If you're going to run the same schedules, it's not going to look different, just more PAR from one type than the other, unless you're planning on just running every unit at 100% on all channels. If you already have T5s as supplemental lighting, you won't see color differences either way. I think you should sell the Pros and buy the Blues since it seems you think the Pros are too white anyways.
 

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If you're going to run the same schedules, it's not going to look different, just more PAR from one type than the other, unless you're planning on just running every unit at 100% on all channels. If you already have T5s as supplemental lighting, you won't see color differences either way. I think you should sell the Pros and buy the Blues since it seems you think the Pros are too white anyways.
The Pro’s are perfect to my eye at 25-30% whites. The blues are too blue. That’s why I want to mix. Then I have the ability with the 3 current pros to go up or down with whites and run the new additional blues at 100% to get the extra par. Now I’m just trying to decide on 2 XR15 blues or 2 XR30 blues between the current 3 XR30 pros.
 

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The Pro’s are perfect to my eye at 25-30% whites. The blues are too blue. That’s why I want to mix. Then I have the ability with the 3 current pros to go up or down with whites and run the new additional blues at 100% to get the extra par. Now I’m just trying to decide on 2 XR15 blues or 2 XR30 blues between the current 3 XR30 pros.
The Blues at 100% are basically the Pros with whites at around 30-40% or so, just with more PAR since there's more blues.

I've had both side by side (gen 5). I think your best and more efficient path to getting to your goals is to swap out everything for Blues.
 

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The Blues at 100% are basically the Pros with whites at around 30-40% or so, just with more PAR since there's more blues.

I've had both side by side (gen 5). I think your best and more efficient path to getting to your goals is to swap out everything for Blues.
That’s not the experience I had at all with the G6. When my XR30s initially shipped, they accidentally shipped a blue with my pros. I compared both and the blue at 100 on all channels could not get even close as white as the Pros at 25% whites.
 

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