Red Sea Seam Issues - (please read before voting)

[TheDuude]

I just don’t see how this “data” is any different than any other thread. It only represents those who are on this site and see it and care to vote. To that end, of those who vote, how many are being honest and not partaking in ballot stuffing for their agenda or for fun?

What percentage of global ow Wes is that? Nobody knows.

Nice thought, but this will just be tossed on the pile of RS arguments.

100% agree. Need a larger data set.

 

[BeanAnimal]

100% agree. Need a larger data set.

Which you are never going to get. The only party that has that data is RS and they are certainly not going to make it public.

 

[JNalley]

I just don’t see how this “data” is any different than any other thread. It only represents those who are on this site and see it and care to vote. To that end, of those who vote, how many are being honest and not partaking in ballot stuffing for their agenda or for fun?

What percentage of global ow Wes is that? Nobody knows.

Nice thought, but this will just be tossed on the pile of RS arguments.

The threads are full of noise, and I find it hard to sift through the conversations... Seeing hard numbers is better for me, and I assume lots of others... Agenda bias will happen anywhere, including independent studies... R2R has a large user base, and, if we can get most to vote, could provide a large enough sample size too be relevant.... I understand going into this that the odds of that outcome are slim, but it doesn't hurt to try

 

[JNalley]

100% agree. Need a larger data set.

This forum has a large active membership. I think if we could get enough people to actually vote, that it could be a large enough data set...

 

[EliMelly]

THE RED SEA 500 IS A SOLID AQUARIUM BUILD. THERE PROBLEMS WERE WITH THE GEN 1 REEFERS.

Hi Kris

 

[MnFish1]

The threads are full of noise, and I find it hard to sift through the conversations... Seeing hard numbers is better for me, and I assume lots of others... Agenda bias will happen anywhere, including independent studies... R2R has a large user base, and, if we can get most to vote, could provide a large enough sample size too be relevant.... I understand going into this that the odds of that outcome are slim, but it doesn't hurt to try

I tend to agree with part of what you're saying. I do not believe that the absolute numbers will be helpful in determining the actual percent of aquaria that failed. But - in the end it will show IMHO that the vast majority of RedSea tanks have not had a problem. Another potential issue - I have 2 large RedSea tanks both Gen 1 - with no problems > 5 years. But there is only 1 vote.

 

[JNalley]

I tend to agree with part of what you're saying. I do not believe that the absolute numbers will be helpful in determining the actual percent of aquaria that failed. But - in the end it will show IMHO that the vast majority of RedSea tanks have not had a problem. Another potential issue - I have 2 large RedSea tanks both Gen 1 - with no problems > 5 years. But there is only 1 vote.

Aye, it's got a few problems, but I didn't think everyone would go to do a survey monkey survey either (where I could have gotten more detailed with questions and had compounded questions), so I'm left with the limitations of the forum unfortunately. I agree with you that failures are likely a low percentage by the way, but I would like to figure out how low... Because for me, a 1% failure rate is too high, whereas someone else might be comfortable with a 2 or 3 percent failure rate. At least with raw data everyone can figure out their own threshold.

 

[MnFish1]

Aye, it's got a few problems, but I didn't think everyone would go to do a survey monkey survey either (where I could have gotten more detailed with questions and had compounded questions), so I'm left with the limitations of the forum unfortunately. I agree with you that failures are likely a low percentage by the way, but I would like to figure out how low... Because for me, a 1% failure rate is too high, whereas someone else might be comfortable with a 2 or 3 percent failure rate. At least with raw data everyone can figure out their own threshold.

From discussions from non-red sea LFS workers at a couple stores the comment was any rimless tank can have problems. They estimated about 2-3 percent. Whether this is right or wrong IDK.

 

[AydenLincoln]

Bumping this up!

 

[SVTChili]

Reefer 425XL and Reffer 170, only issues I’ve ever had was replacing the o-rings.

 

[SimbaAnto]

Reefer 350 Gen 1 . 3.8 yrs and saw the damage last week. Red Sea offered me $800 towards new tank. Said No thanks .

Going with Cade 1500. As glass cages and planet aqua take about 12 weeks I didn't want to wait and go for it as it's a ticking time bomb

 

[WhatCouldGoWrong71]

I have a Red Sea Max S-500 since 2017 and never had seam issues. The old C-skim was pretty bad but apart of that I have no complains.

I have a Max 500 also, about 8 years old. No issues, but these tanks are built like a tank, unlike my Reefer 250, which I have not had any issues, but completely bare bones build compared to my Max.