Switching from AFR to kalkwasser

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I am just explaining what works for me and my tank, it took me a long time to get the Kalk I use right, you have to be very careful with Kalk, and I learn through trial and error.
Ok, i still suggest the same thing. This forum is named after Randy Holmes-Farley for a reason.
 

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Ok, i still suggest the same thing. This forum is named after Randy Holmes-Farley for a reason.
I am not trying to just say things, I put a lot of effort in the product I use, you don't have that experience, I am just trying to keep it as it truly is.
 
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I have been using this Kalk a long time, I started using using it on a practice tank at 43ML a day and it would spike Calcium too high, I than divided it by 7 and came up with 6ml a day, and than very little Calcium increase, and than after I found a safe dose, I dose 6ml a day in my main 53 gal tank, I have experience using this, you don't, you have to be very careful with Kalk to find the right dose, and this Kalk is safe if you use the right dose, and it does maintain a very good PH if you use it right.

I’m sure it is safe. I’m also sure it does nothing useful. Look at the exact product directions. It referred to gallons of kalk dosed, not mL of kalk dosed.

Try not dosing it and see if anything happens.
 

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I am just explaining what works for me and my tank, it took me a long time to get the Kalk I use right, you have to be very careful with Kalk, and I learn through trial and error.

Yes, I also used it for 20 years. I dosed about 1- 2% of the tank volume daily.

That said, this is not about user experiences or opinions. It is a simple chemical fact that what you are dosing is trivially low and will have no useful effect, assuming it is the product you specified and not something else.
 

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I am not trying to just say things, I put a lot of effort in the product I use, you don't have that experience, I am just trying to keep it as it truly is.

If you dont want to believe chemistry experts who have been studying it for decades, that’s fine. I suggest you ask the manufacturer if the amount you are dosing is useful if you think it may be.
 

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If you dont want to believe chemistry experts who have been studying it for decades, that’s fine. I suggest you ask the manufacturer if the amount you are dosing is useful if you think it may be.
I am just explaining what is really happing with my many efforts of dosing and testing Kalk, I can't change or make up something to satisfied you.
 

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I am just explaining what is really happing with my many efforts of dosing and testing Kalk, I can't change or make up something to satisfied you.

Sorry, no, your statements cannot override my understanding of the product.

Next time you go to dose it, monitor alk and pH immediately before and immediately after dosing. That will show both effects.
 

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Sorry, no, your statements cannot override my understanding of the product.

Next time you go to dose it, monitor alk and pH immediately before and immediately after dosing. That will show both effects.
When I am dosing Kalk, the number 1 test is Calcium, and if there is a spike you are dosing too much, than the number 2 test is PH to see any difference from last time, and the number 3 test I do is Alkalinity, I like my alkalinity to be a little high not to much so I also does 2.1ML of dkh to measure per day, for this steady constant dosing keeps my PH in range.
 

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When I am dosing Kalk, the number 1 test is Calcium, and if there is a spike you are dosing too much, than the number 2 test is PH to see any difference from last time, and the number 3 test I do is Alkalinity, I like my alkalinity to be a little high not to much so I also does 2.1ML of dkh to measure per day, for this steady constant dosing keeps my PH in range.
Do you realize you are arguing chemistry with a chemist? Not just some dude with a reef tank. A long time chemist. 2.1 ml of dkh is not correct units of measure either.
 

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When I am dosing Kalk, the number 1 test is Calcium, and if there is a spike you are dosing too much, than the number 2 test is PH to see any difference from last time, and the number 3 test I do is Alkalinity, I like my alkalinity to be a little high not to much so I also does 2.1ML of dkh to measure per day, for this steady constant dosing keeps my PH in range.

Again, I do not agree. I recommend dosing by alk. But at least that is opinion. The other issues are simple facts.

Just to be sure there is not some translation issue, you claim to dose 6 millliters of kalkwasser to a 53 gallon aquarium?
 

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Again, I do not agree. I recommend dosing by alk. But at least that is opinion. The other issues are simple facts.

Just to be sure there is not some translation issue, you claim to dose 6 millliters of kalkwasser to a 53 gallon aquarium?
I am dosing Alk, look above, my daily Kalk is 6ML per day, that is from a long effort of dosing and testing in 50 gal practice tank and 53 gal main display, the dosing is correct because I use Hydros dosers and app.
 

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I am dosing Alk, look above, my daily Kalk is 6ML per day, that is from a long effort of dosing and testing in 50 gal practice tank and 53 gal main display, the dosing is correct because I use Hydros dosers and app.

Don’t get curt with me. I’m just trying politely to be sure that you mean what you wrote. I do not want to be telling you over and over you are wrong if you do not really mean what may have been incorrectly translated from some other language.

To be clear, ML is wrong, unless you mean you dose 6 million liters per day. ML means megaliter. I was trying to be sure you did not mean 6 liters per day, which is a useful and appropriate dose.
 

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