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Well during my flashlight observation this morning, I noticed my male melanurus out of the sand, but he was laying on his side, barely breathing. I thought maybe he was playing dead like the female had done. Thirty minutes later I went to check on him and he had died and the hermits were on top of him:sad:. Of course I took him out. He didn't have a scratch on him anywhere. Still a perfect looking fish. No one was picking on him, so I guess it was the stress of shipping.
I'm sorry; sometimes there's nothing you can do despite your best efforts. At the point they're laying on their side and minimally breathing, you're at that point. While it's a pretty hardy Halichoeres species, it too can succumb to shipping and/or transitional stress, for which you saw the classic signs.

Sorry for your loss but yes many Wrasse are so stressed from shipping from exporter to the wholesaler to the pet store that they unfortunately do not make it, that is why I always ask how long a particular fish I am interested in has been at the store where I see it and if it is a wrasse, I will not buy it unless it is a least for one week or more and looks healthy and feeds, and I want the store to show me that it does .... Also sometimes real long acclimating is necessary before putting it in your tank. FWIW
How delicate really depends on genus, and in the instance of Macropharyngodon, many believe intercepting a specimen right away when it reaches a retailer (before they even open the bag) will provide you with the best odds. Also, I have never done a drip acclimation on a wrasse which exceeded an hour, and I believe any acclimation periods longer than such can be more harmful than helpful.
 

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How big do filamented flasher wrasses get?

If I get a male filamented, will it make my male carpenters wrasse flash?

Anyone seen any blue flashers for sale anywhere?
 

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How big do filamented flasher wrasses get?

If I get a male filamented, will it make my male carpenters wrasse flash?

Anyone seen any blue flashers for sale anywhere?
Bigger than one might think. Max recorded size is nearly 6", but that's larger than what's typical (4-4.5").

And yes, it should, assuming your tank is large enough to provide territory for both.

Diver's Den lists P. cyaneus for sale several times a month. In fact, there's one listed right now. There's also a Filamented x. Flavianalis hybird up there right now, although it's incorrectly ID'd as a regular P. filamentosus.
 

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I prefer lineopunctatus; but it's really just a matter of preference.

It's probably not worth it to put lineopunctatus and cyaneus in the same tank; the casual observer would never tell them apart.
 

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Thanks, so the carpenters, blue flasher, dot dash, and filamented all look very similar when they flash?

Would a female carpenter make the male carpenter flash more or does a male of another breed result in more flash?
 

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Thanks, so the carpenters, blue flasher, dot dash, and filamented all look very similar when they flash?
Not really, just the blue (cyaneus) and the line-spot (lineopunctatus) are similar.

Would a female carpenter make the male carpenter flash more or does a male of another breed result in more flash?
Yes, adding a female conspecific is the better option. However, finding a female paracheilinus of any species is always a challange.
 

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I don't have the experience (direct or indirect) in that arena to answer that one with any certainty. I've only kept male Paracheilinus.
 

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They just don't come up all that often and wouldn't even try to tell them apart, female flashers all look the same to me.
 

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Hey guys! wrasses are by far my favorite, ive been following along for awhile now, eventually i broke down and signed up. :yo:

Juvie mystery

Male mystery

Christmas wrasse

Lubbocks pair


Pink streaked


Ill try to get some better pics of some of my others
 

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39 Gallon w 20g sump. 2 Ocellaris clowns and 1 firefish.

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With two clowns in the tank anything small is going to be chased around and since wrasse are jumpers, they will unless you have a cover over the tank. If they cannot jump out and keep getting bullied they may not make it due to the stress from being chased around all the time and may even not get to food as they may be out compete for it, so I would look at other fish that can hold their own against Clowns .... maybe some Basslets of the Liopropoma genus.
 

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I would have to agree with albert. Ive not been able to keep a wrasse in my 29 gallon clown system for too long at all.. Though for quite some time now have kept a golden dwarf moray in with them with no problems.
 

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I would have to agree with albert. Ive not been able to keep a wrasse in my 29 gallon clown system for too long at all.. Though for quite some time now have kept a golden dwarf moray in with them with no problems.

Maybe a small one would be ok but not as long as those 2 Clownfish are in there IMO and IME. In smaller tanks where you have 2 of them it is going to be hard to keep anything but maybe Shrimp Gobies and their Shrimp, as they will dig themselves in, just make sure you see them feed ... or they will not make it either, so spot feeding near and in their burrow will IME be the only way it will work.
 

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