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I have never use it, but this would be my first reaction. That, and sometimes you just have to "see" the tank to "see" a problem.
However, I am seeing posts where users have said that they have asked ChatGPT what to do with their tank. I don't know if this is how it's going to be going forward in the hobby.
I'm interested to see what others say here.
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@revhtree I ponied up my R2R Partner Member money last night, and now I have some demands lol!
We need a "like" button for "interesting", in my opinion. Just an FYI
We need a "like" button for "interesting", in my opinion. Just an FYI
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I asked it to write a new law, and an unrelated business plan. Both were amazing starting points. I was impressed with what it can do.
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See below....a test question.
Creating a dosing regimen for a mixed reef tank involves balancing the right levels of essential elements like calcium, alkalinity, magnesium, trace elements, and other nutrients that the corals and other invertebrates depend on for growth and health. The exact dosing regimen will depend on the size of your tank, the types of corals, and the current water parameters. Below is a general approach to formulating a dosing regimen:
### 1. **Test Your Water Parameters**
Before starting, it's important to test the following:
- **Alkalinity (dKH)**
- **Calcium (Ca)**
- **Magnesium (Mg)**
- **Nitrate (NO3)**
- **Phosphate (PO4)**
- **pH**
This will help you understand what elements need supplementation and by how much.
### 2. **Calcium and Alkalinity**
These are the two main parameters that need to be monitored and supplemented regularly.
- **Calcium (Ca):** Corals, especially SPS, use a lot of calcium for skeleton growth. Maintain a range of 380–450 ppm.
- **Alkalinity (dKH):** Alkalinity is essential for coral growth and stabilizing pH. The ideal range is generally 8–12 dKH, though this depends on the corals and your system’s needs.
#### Dosing Methods:
- **Two-Part Solution:** A two-part dosing system typically consists of a solution to raise calcium and one for alkalinity (sodium carbonate or bicarbonate). A standard approach is to dose 1 ml per gallon of each solution per day (adjust as necessary based on consumption).
- **Calcium Reactor:** A more advanced solution, ideal for larger tanks, is a calcium reactor. This continuously dissolves media to release calcium and alkalinity.
Start with small doses and test frequently to ensure you're hitting the desired levels.
### 3. **Magnesium (Mg)**
Magnesium helps stabilize alkalinity and calcium levels. If calcium and alkalinity levels are significantly imbalanced, magnesium can help. Aim for a magnesium range of 1250–1350 ppm.
- **Magnesium Dosing:** Magnesium is usually dosed in larger quantities to correct imbalances or maintain steady levels. If you're using a two-part system, you can add magnesium separately if needed (e.g., using a magnesium chloride supplement).
### 4. **Trace Elements**
Corals require various trace elements (such as iodine, strontium, and others) for healthy growth. While most of these elements are replenished through water changes, you may need to dose them in a high-demand system.
- **Iodine:** Typically needed for soft corals, especially for their immune response. A small, consistent dose (e.g., 1–2 drops per 50 gallons) can be added weekly.
- **Strontium and Other Trace Elements:** If your corals are demanding, you may want to add a balanced trace element supplement like a trace element additive. Most commercial products are designed to maintain the right levels.
### 5. **Nitrate and Phosphate Control**
Excess nitrate and phosphate can lead to algae blooms and poor coral growth. A balanced nutrient level helps corals thrive.
- **Nitrates (NO3):** Aim for 2–5 ppm for a mixed reef. If it's higher, consider adding nitrate-reducing products or increasing water changes.
- **Phosphates (PO4):** Aim for 0.03–0.05 ppm. Use phosphate-removing media if levels are higher. Keep in mind that corals need some phosphate, but too much will hinder growth and promote algae.
### 6. **Additives for Special Needs**
- **Amino Acids:** These are important for SPS and LPS corals to promote growth and color. You can add amino acids weekly based on the manufacturer’s recommendation.
- **Vitamin C:** Some reefers dose vitamin C for coral health and to help reduce stress, though the scientific consensus on its necessity is still mixed.
### Example Dosing Regimen (for a 100-gallon tank):
- **Calcium:** 20–30 ml of a two-part calcium solution daily (adjust based on test results).
- **Alkalinity:** 20–30 ml of the corresponding two-part alkalinity solution daily.
- **Magnesium:** If needed, 20–30 ml of magnesium solution 1–2 times per week.
- **Iodine:** 1 drop per 50 gallons every 1–2 weeks.
- **Trace Elements:** Add as directed, usually once a week or according to the system's demand.
- **Amino Acids:** Add per manufacturer’s directions, typically once a week or after water changes.
### Monitoring and Adjusting:
- **Monitor regularly:** Test water parameters weekly until you find a stable dosing routine, then reduce testing to bi-weekly or monthly.
- **Adjust doses based on consumption:** If you notice corals are growing too fast or too slow, adjust the dosing amounts. Corals may also change their demands based on water quality and feeding.
**Remember**: Each tank is different. It's important to monitor your parameters and adjust your regimen based on your system’s response.
Creating a dosing regimen for a mixed reef tank involves balancing the right levels of essential elements like calcium, alkalinity, magnesium, trace elements, and other nutrients that the corals and other invertebrates depend on for growth and health. The exact dosing regimen will depend on the size of your tank, the types of corals, and the current water parameters. Below is a general approach to formulating a dosing regimen:
### 1. **Test Your Water Parameters**
Before starting, it's important to test the following:
- **Alkalinity (dKH)**
- **Calcium (Ca)**
- **Magnesium (Mg)**
- **Nitrate (NO3)**
- **Phosphate (PO4)**
- **pH**
This will help you understand what elements need supplementation and by how much.
### 2. **Calcium and Alkalinity**
These are the two main parameters that need to be monitored and supplemented regularly.
- **Calcium (Ca):** Corals, especially SPS, use a lot of calcium for skeleton growth. Maintain a range of 380–450 ppm.
- **Alkalinity (dKH):** Alkalinity is essential for coral growth and stabilizing pH. The ideal range is generally 8–12 dKH, though this depends on the corals and your system’s needs.
#### Dosing Methods:
- **Two-Part Solution:** A two-part dosing system typically consists of a solution to raise calcium and one for alkalinity (sodium carbonate or bicarbonate). A standard approach is to dose 1 ml per gallon of each solution per day (adjust as necessary based on consumption).
- **Calcium Reactor:** A more advanced solution, ideal for larger tanks, is a calcium reactor. This continuously dissolves media to release calcium and alkalinity.
Start with small doses and test frequently to ensure you're hitting the desired levels.
### 3. **Magnesium (Mg)**
Magnesium helps stabilize alkalinity and calcium levels. If calcium and alkalinity levels are significantly imbalanced, magnesium can help. Aim for a magnesium range of 1250–1350 ppm.
- **Magnesium Dosing:** Magnesium is usually dosed in larger quantities to correct imbalances or maintain steady levels. If you're using a two-part system, you can add magnesium separately if needed (e.g., using a magnesium chloride supplement).
### 4. **Trace Elements**
Corals require various trace elements (such as iodine, strontium, and others) for healthy growth. While most of these elements are replenished through water changes, you may need to dose them in a high-demand system.
- **Iodine:** Typically needed for soft corals, especially for their immune response. A small, consistent dose (e.g., 1–2 drops per 50 gallons) can be added weekly.
- **Strontium and Other Trace Elements:** If your corals are demanding, you may want to add a balanced trace element supplement like a trace element additive. Most commercial products are designed to maintain the right levels.
### 5. **Nitrate and Phosphate Control**
Excess nitrate and phosphate can lead to algae blooms and poor coral growth. A balanced nutrient level helps corals thrive.
- **Nitrates (NO3):** Aim for 2–5 ppm for a mixed reef. If it's higher, consider adding nitrate-reducing products or increasing water changes.
- **Phosphates (PO4):** Aim for 0.03–0.05 ppm. Use phosphate-removing media if levels are higher. Keep in mind that corals need some phosphate, but too much will hinder growth and promote algae.
### 6. **Additives for Special Needs**
- **Amino Acids:** These are important for SPS and LPS corals to promote growth and color. You can add amino acids weekly based on the manufacturer’s recommendation.
- **Vitamin C:** Some reefers dose vitamin C for coral health and to help reduce stress, though the scientific consensus on its necessity is still mixed.
### Example Dosing Regimen (for a 100-gallon tank):
- **Calcium:** 20–30 ml of a two-part calcium solution daily (adjust based on test results).
- **Alkalinity:** 20–30 ml of the corresponding two-part alkalinity solution daily.
- **Magnesium:** If needed, 20–30 ml of magnesium solution 1–2 times per week.
- **Iodine:** 1 drop per 50 gallons every 1–2 weeks.
- **Trace Elements:** Add as directed, usually once a week or according to the system's demand.
- **Amino Acids:** Add per manufacturer’s directions, typically once a week or after water changes.
### Monitoring and Adjusting:
- **Monitor regularly:** Test water parameters weekly until you find a stable dosing routine, then reduce testing to bi-weekly or monthly.
- **Adjust doses based on consumption:** If you notice corals are growing too fast or too slow, adjust the dosing amounts. Corals may also change their demands based on water quality and feeding.
**Remember**: Each tank is different. It's important to monitor your parameters and adjust your regimen based on your system’s response.
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My wife has been using AI to write memos and emails at work for about three months. Her boss encouraged her to use it, not because she's a bad writer, but because it's much faster. Write a bad paragraph, and AI takes it and makes it a full, well written piece.
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Listen, I'm old, and a fan of humans (and fish!), but how much better will this be in a year, or 5 or 10? Maybe this is where everything is going? Until AI marches a small group of sheeple off a cliff, and then maybe we take another look at this stuff?
In my personal experience, every time someone has asked for an AI about something that I have some level of expertise in, it's basically a garbage output. I have seen this for electronics, for music theory, and reef keeping. AI is very good at fooling people who don't know any information. I was arguing this with someone who was very adamant about AI. He claimed that he had ChatGPT write legal filings for his child custody battle. Needless to say, IMO if his wife gets full custody, maybe ChatGPT will have been worth something.
Oh Good Lord, yes. Google AI suuuuuuuucks!
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Yes, yes, yes! (And, I'm liking your build thread, by the way!), but I say again, what will this stuff look like in 5 or 10 years... It's almost scarry lol!
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What might work better would be to make a GPT or agent that you ground by providing the ‘rules’ for aquarium keeping, instructions, scientific papers, you could probably scrape data off reef2reef and it could make use of all the info posted here.
Then it would answer questions based on that ‘approved’ data only as posed to random stuff pulled from the internet and made up words it thinks fit together in the most statistically likely sentences and paragraphs.
it’s the worst today that it will ever be as it’s constantly improving.
Then it would answer questions based on that ‘approved’ data only as posed to random stuff pulled from the internet and made up words it thinks fit together in the most statistically likely sentences and paragraphs.
it’s the worst today that it will ever be as it’s constantly improving.
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My boyfriend will ask Siri a question and it’s like she hates him lol she won’t respond or it takes forever…I ask Siri and I get an answer! Be nice to your AI lol
@Johnd651 ibe used it at work for outlines of documents or for starting points on things. I’ve used it to check my papers while I was in college this last time.
It’s useful and not. I would have to tel it not to remove certain things (like citations!). At this point I don’t know if it’s really helpful for our tanks.
I’ve used it to do some equations for chem Stuff but then I double check it and google how to do such and such….
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Ya seems like some of the answers we see posted on R2R were people asking Google AI and posting answers here.
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Or the people is where AI got the answer….
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