Watanabe Odd Swimming

[Reefer1978]

To me the fish appears more alert and active but one thing I see which may pose an issue is a very porous rock and sand which may be absorbing some of the medication being administered reducing effectiveness of treatment.

Would you recommend removing and treating again?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Would you recommend removing and treating again?

Yes

 

[Reefer1978]

Yes

Rock and sand removed, another dose added on Thursday evening. No change in swimming.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Rock and sand removed, another dose added on Thursday evening. No change in swimming.

it takes as much as 2 days for meds to take effect.

 

[Reefer1978]

it takes as much as 2 days for meds to take effect.

Agree, just posting updates. I am doing second and final dose tonight.

 

[Reefer1978]

Hi @vetteguy53081, after 2 more full treatments (no rock, barely any sand) for a total of 5 treatments, no change in swimming behavior.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hi @vetteguy53081, after 2 more full treatments (no rock, barely any sand) for a total of 5 treatments, no change in swimming behavior.

Please add updated video.
Is fish breathing and eating and normal?
What salinity are you running as well as PH?
To confirm , you are using no tap water from faucet and RODI only?

 

[Reefer1978]

Please add updated video.
Is fish breathing and eating and normal?
What salinity are you running as well as PH?
To confirm , you are using no tap water from faucet and RODI only?

I am not home right now to take the video, but will do so at night.

Salinity is same as DT as that'a where the water came from, 1.025. Ph I haven't tested, but can. Eating is completely normal, she goes right after food as soon as it's introduced. Breathing is also normal. I am using clean RODI for top-off.

 

[Reefer1978]

Please add updated video.
Is fish breathing and eating and normal?
What salinity are you running as well as PH?
To confirm , you are using no tap water from faucet and RODI only?

Good morning @vetteguy53081. I am adding 2 video's, I recorded a second one this morning while the lights are low to show how she's swimming when I am not close to the tank. It's a bit more grainy as I am far from the tank.

 

[vetteguy53081]

The swimming pattern appears to be near normal from all the watanabes ive seen. For comparison, see the videos below and you will notice the similarity with yours an swim behavior

 

[Reefer1978]

The swimming pattern appears to be near normal from all the watanabes ive seen. For comparison, see the videos below and you will notice the similarity with yours an swim behavior

Thank you for posting these, I actually saw the second one . I have 2 other watanabes, and 2 swallowtails. This one is not swimming like the rest of them. In the second video I posted today, if you see the vertical bob up and down, that's what I am referring to. She's swimming like that all day long unless I am feeding. The only time I see her get horizontal and swim in straight lines are for feeding, or when getting chased.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Thank you for posting these, I actually saw the second one . I have 2 other watanabes, and 2 swallowtails. This one is not swimming like the rest of them. In the second video I posted today, if you see the vertical bob up and down, that's what I am referring to. She's swimming like that all day long unless I am feeding. The only time I see her get horizontal and swim in straight lines are for feeding, or when getting chased.

IMO - the second video shows a fish with a negative buoyancy issue - that's why its swimming with slight upward jerking motion, it's trying to maintain position in the water by swimming in order to counteract the negative buoyancy. I'm sorry, but I don't know of an effective treatment for that.

Could it have ruptured its swim bladder? That is, was it positively buoyant and then suddenly negative? I've seen minor cases of this when a fish is first moved into hyposalinity, where the lower density of the water causes the fish to sink. That doesn't apply in this case does it?

 

[Reefer1978]

IMO - the second video shows a fish with a negative buoyancy issue - that's why its swimming with slight upward jerking motion, it's trying to maintain position in the water by swimming in order to counteract the negative buoyancy. I'm sorry, but I don't know of an effective treatment for that.

Could it have ruptured its swim bladder? That is, was it positively buoyant and then suddenly negative? I've seen minor cases of this when a fish is first moved into hyposalinity, where the lower density of the water causes the fish to sink. That doesn't apply in this case does it?

She was swimming this way right when I got her from Dr. Reef. I would assume Dr. Reef would not have sent a animal that was observed to have issues in quarantine, so most likely it either happened in shipping, or something went odd within my acclimation. Please keep in mind I've had her for about a year.

I did notice that swimming got worse with hypo, but not a drastic change. Just more of this odd behavior.

 

[Reefer1978]

@Jay Hemdal do you have a recommendation on what to do next? Do I keep her in a separate tank, or release back into the DT?