White specks on my clownfish

[Zigaz]

I have done copper treatment for 30 days now im on my 3rd day of prazipro, today little white raised specks are on one of my clown fish other is clean so i my blue tang and royal gramma. What could this be? Hard to tell on the video but thats best i could do. Thanks

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I have done copper treatment for 30 days now im on my 3rd day of prazipro, today little white raised specks are on one of my clown fish other is clean so i my blue tang and royal gramma. What could this be? Hard to tell on the video but thats best i could do. Thanks

Really tough to see - it isn't ich or velvet. It could be flukes that were lifted off the fish by the prazipro, but not killed outright. It could also be mucus/bacteria at the sites where flukes HAD been before the prazi.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I have done copper treatment for 30 days now im on my 3rd day of prazipro, today little white raised specks are on one of my clown fish other is clean so i my blue tang and royal gramma. What could this be? Hard to tell on the video but thats best i could do. Thanks

Im wondering as Jay stated flukes as well as skin irritation as I notice tthe hepatus is breathing very rapidly. This is part can be due to flukes but also can be water quality mainly ammonia level.
What is the ammonia level and how are you testing it?
Prazi takes at least 3 days to be effective and may just be starting to work

 

[Zigaz]

Im wondering as Jay stated flukes as well as skin irritation as I notice tthe hepatus is breathing very rapidly. This is part can be due to flukes but also can be water quality mainly ammonia level.
What is the ammonia level and how are you testing it?
Prazi takes at least 3 days to be effective and may just be starting to work

Ammonia is zero i use the seachem ammonia badge and yes you are right the tang is breathing very rapidly, can i do a water change now just in case?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ammonia is zero i use the seachem ammonia badge and yes you are right the tang is breathing very rapidly, can i do a water change now just in case?

Water change yes and the badge is perhaps the worse device as it after two weeks and in copper gives false readings and will always show Zero and is also made for freshwater.
You have to ask yourself- Do you want to risk water quality using an $8 device to sustain a couple hundred dollars or more worth of fish. Invest is salifert or Hanna brand tests but in the mean time take a water sample to an LFS that Does NOT use api tests and see what readings they come up with.

 

[Zigaz]

Water change yes and the badge is perhaps the worse device as it after two weeks and in copper gives false readings and will always show Zero and is also made for freshwater.
You have to ask yourself- Do you want to risk water quality using an $8 device to sustain a couple hundred dollars or more worth of fish. Invest is salifert or Hanna brand tests but in the mean time take a water sample to an LFS that Does NOT use api tests and see what readings they come up with.

Ive just confirmed theres no ammonia with salifert test, after the wc when should i add another round of prazipro? Thanks

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ive just confirmed theres no ammonia with salifert test, after the wc when should i add another round of prazipro? Thanks

After water change- add a little- not full dose. At next water change (8 days) you can add 85% of recommended amount

 

[Zigaz]

After water change- add a little- not full dose. At next water change (8 days) you can add 85% of recommended amount

So that means 3 rounds of prazi?

 

[Zigaz]

Really tough to see - it isn't ich or velvet. It could be flukes that were lifted off the fish by the prazipro, but not killed outright. It could also be mucus/bacteria at the sites where flukes HAD been before the prazi.

I tried to take better pictures, after the wc should i add another dose of prazipro because its only been 4 days will i not over dose it? Thanks

 

[vetteguy53081]

So that means 3 rounds of prazi?

Hold on...... I see your very clear pics and see mucus cones which likely are mixed with ich. I agree as stated earlier - skin irritation which was likely trigger and you will need to treated with coppersafe at 2.25 in lieu of prazi. I know this may sound confusing but this is the clearest pics posted and shows a clearer assessment.
Treat for a FULL 30 days (do not interrupt this 30 day period) monitored by a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone. Do water change as planned but add coppersafe

 

[Zigaz]

Hold on...... I see your very clear pics and see mucus cones which likely are mixed with ich. I agree as stated earlier - skin irritation which was likely trigger and you will need to treated with coppersafe at 2.25 in lieu of prazi. I know this may sound confusing but this is the clearest pics posted and shows a clearer assessment.
Treat for a FULL 30 days (do not interrupt this 30 day period) monitored by a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone. Do water change as planned but add coppersafe

Thanks for your reply so i understood dose prazi and copper? I only have cumpramine which is 0.50
These fish will be in qt for over 60 days

 

[vetteguy53081]

Thanks for your reply so i understood dose prazi and copper? I only have cumpramine which is 0.50
These fish will be in qt for over 60 days

I dont like mixing both but again likely irritation and focus on ammonia level. Cupramine is more potent and may or may not be a contributor. Rin it at .45 opposed to the max level of .5

 

[Zigaz]

I tried to take better pictures, after the wc should i add another dose of prazipro because its only been 4 days will i not over dose it? Thanks

@jay

I tried to take better pictures, after the wc should i add another dose of prazipro because its only been 4 days will i not over dose it? Thanks

@jay ham

I tried to take better pictures, after the wc should i add another dose of prazipro because its only been 4 days will i not over dose it? Thanks

@Jay Hemdal

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I tried to take better pictures, after the wc should i add another dose of prazipro because its only been 4 days will i not over dose it? Thanks

Whoa - these pictures look completely different! These are mucus plugs. Fish produce these are a response to some stress. Ich is a common cause, other times, the cause is unknown.

 

[Zigaz]

Whoa - these pictures look completely different! These are mucus plugs. Fish produce these are a response to some stress. Ich is a common cause, other times, the cause is unknown.

Could this be stress from the prazipro?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Could this be stress from the prazipro?

Perhaps - but I've not seen that before. I just assumed your copper treatment was effective, any chance that ich got back into your tank afterwards, or if there was any issue with the treatment?