Xenia toxin!!!

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It's been roughly 2 hours and no reaction, am I safe? Btw, I did listen to what was said regarding them having no toxin, just me being a little cautious
I've had skin issues my whole life.
Seems I'm allergic to a piece of air.
Here's my old 75.
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Xenia everywhere even in the sump.
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Little tank overrun.
I'll trim it by hand.
Never had an issue, even with my skin.
Just never know....
 

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What about the palytoxin itself? Does that harm the fish by any chance of it came from the coral?
I've plucked palys off the back wall, lots of them. I just ripped them off with forceps. No fish or coral showed any reaction good or bad. This was a 180g tank so maybe they could cause a problem in a small tank, I'm not sure. Its a good idea to always wear PPE when working with palys and zoas and resist any urge to scratch your nose or rub your eyes.
 

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It might sound stupid, but I haven't told my parents yet, as I don't want to worry them, and because I haven't had anything happen in the last hour and a half.
If you were allergic you would know by now. I found out the hard way about being allergic to lionfish venom. Almost died from the reaction. Benedryl is your friend, minor reactions take that and you will be good. serious ones you would know by now if you needed medical attention
 

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I've plucked palys off the back wall, lots of them. I just ripped them off with forceps. No fish or coral showed any reaction good or bad. This was a 180g tank so maybe they could cause a problem in a small tank, I'm not sure. Its a good idea to always wear PPE when working with palys and zoas and resist any urge to scratch your nose or rub your eyes.
Only thing Ive ever seen have an issue with playtoxin were some dumb emerald crabs of mine. They kept dying a few days after being put in. Couldnt figure out why then I saw the little idiots messing with zoas. Next morning dead. Ive also had zoas slime up and touched them without gloves and had no issues
 

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Only thing Ive ever seen have an issue with playtoxin were some dumb emerald crabs of mine. They kept dying a few days after being put in. Couldnt figure out why then I saw the little idiots messing with zoas. Next morning dead. Ive also had zoas slime up and touched them without gloves and had no issues
I never wear gloves but everyone should. I really didn't use forceps either ;)
 

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My experience would be the Xenia is one of the safer corals. Can live and encroach any coral without warfare. To me this indicates there is less likely of a chance of any reactions from touching or fragging. They do slime up and release a brown goo when broken or ripped apart, but I've done heavy trimming and never had even the slightest reaction.

I know everyone is different, but I do generally feel this is a safe coral. I have it all over my Eel's tank and she lays in it often.

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My experience would be the Xenia is one of the safer corals. Can live and encroach any coral without warfare. To me this indicates there is less likely of a chance of any reactions from touching or fragging. They do slime up and release a brown goo when broken or ripped apart, but I've done heavy trimming and never had even the slightest reaction.

I know everyone is different, but I do generally feel this is a safe coral. I have it all over my Eel's tank and she lays in it often.

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Where is your little eel friend??? And what is she? Eels are my favorite :)
 

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Healthcare provider here. I post as a hobbyist, this is not professional advice.

I wear gloves as often as possible when handling coral (disposable nitrile) or am working for more than a few seconds inside the tank (shoulder-length pond gloves.) This is 20% to protect me and 80% to protect the critters. They are ancient sea creatures covered in slime and secreting toxins. But I am a giant land animal covered in acidic oil, chemical residues, and sloughing millions of flakes of dead skin.

There are generally three types of risk from your tank:

1) Toxins. Rare for a home hobbyist to get a dangerous dose, usually from a fish or anemone sting, and even then it’s rare for it to be life threatening.

2) Allergic reactions.

A) The vast majority of these are delayed reactions, like one would get from poison ivy. They show up hours or days after contact. These are not life threatening. Benadryl, steroids, time, not much else we do.

B) Less common, and what most folks fear, is anaphylaxis. This happens fast, like within 20 minutes. While it can happen slower, if it’s been more than 12 hours it’s very probably not anaphylaxis. If you have a history, you better get an epi-pen.

C) Infection. Mycobacterium marinum is one to keep on your radar, but it’s rare. Be aware of breaks in your skin barrier (cuts, rashes, hangnails, etc.) and wear gloves when you can.

Personally I have held tons of stuff, including zoa frags, with bare hands. No issues. But I’m observant and a good hand washer. If 24 hours goes by after touching something dicey, I would stop worrying.
 

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She's my chonky Snowflake
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Awe! Shes cute!!! Whats her name and how old?? This is my snowflake. Her name is Ghost, shes one of 4 eels I have! Shes still recovering from a carpet surfing injury a month or so ago that was pretty big. But its healing nicely
 

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Healthcare provider here. I post as a hobbyist, this is not professional advice.

I wear gloves as often as possible when handling coral (disposable nitrile) or am working for more than a few seconds inside the tank (shoulder-length pond gloves.) This is 20% to protect me and 80% to protect the critters. They are ancient sea creatures covered in slime and secreting toxins. But I am a giant land animal covered in acidic oil, chemical residues, and sloughing millions of flakes of dead skin.

There are generally three types of risk from your tank:

1) Toxins. Rare for a home hobbyist to get a dangerous dose, usually from a fish or anemone sting, and even then it’s rare for it to be life threatening.

2) Allergic reactions.

A) The vast majority of these are delayed reactions, like one would get from poison ivy. They show up hours or days after contact. These are not life threatening. Benadryl, steroids, time, not much else we do.

B) Less common, and what most folks fear, is anaphylaxis. This happens fast, like within 20 minutes. While it can happen slower, if it’s been more than 12 hours it’s very probably not anaphylaxis. If you have a history, you better get an epi-pen.

C) Infection. Mycobacterium marinum is one to keep on your radar, but it’s rare. Be aware of breaks in your skin barrier (cuts, rashes, hangnails, etc.) and wear gloves when you can.

Personally I have held tons of stuff, including zoa frags, with bare hands. No issues. But I’m observant and a good hand washer. If 24 hours goes by after touching something dicey, I would stop worrying.
Wow, that's a lot more than I got anywhere online. Thank you
 
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Thanks to everyone for your input, I'm new to Xenia, but would love to explore them further. I'll also take a photo for an ID tomorrow, because one of he Xenia I got wasn't labelled explicitly and I might need a hand to ID.
 

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