I think a Dkh of 14 is way high but fyi ... I read an article that suggests that regardless of what Ca level you settle at, there is a corresponding Dkh and Mg level that you should aim for. I printed the chart and keep it in my sump room.
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I think a Dkh of 14 is way high but fyi ... I read an article that suggests that regardless of what Ca level you settle at, there is a corresponding Dkh and Mg level that you should aim for. I printed the chart and keep it in my sump room.
I think a Dkh of 14 is way high but fyi ... I read an article that suggests that regardless of what Ca level you settle at, there is a corresponding Dkh and Mg level that you should aim for. I printed the chart and keep it in my sump room.
No emotions? I mentioned 'American salts', you only mentioned IO and RC. Only a small amount of associative logic in that comparison... It's geared by emotion/opinion.
Further you quoted the AA article and wrote off ANY possibility of negatives with any other organisms. That again is emotion, not logic.
With the other data available, given AA is only a single source, the possibilities go up that lithium interferes with other biological development in negative ways. We are growing coral, breeding fish, raising planktons, life goes on, and to better understand it only furthers our success. Pretending it doesn't matter is the most illogical attempt for a point of argument, thus it's geared by emotions. Perhaps you need to learn a bit more about yourself and why you bring up the points you do, because it surely doesn't help things trying to say "it doesn't matter!" The world is just not that simple.
I myself have an emotional negative. I've become tired of being preached to by people who swear 'things work this way' but yet are completely ignoring the facts of the world around us. This gears a lot of my gusto, but I make my number one priority to be accurate, factual, and hopefully share what I've learned so that someone smarter than myself might one day recall what I've shared and piece together more of the puzzles around us.
If we're going to be adults, and have a conversation about the best salts, lithium content is a valid tangent. Even confirmed by one of the most educated amongst us with the reference I posted above as that was part of their basis for choosing one salt over another. (feel free to find out who that was; again, perhaps Google/bing can help you)
Oh, and your comments about 'people breed just fine with RC/IO.....etc'
Ok, why is it only now blue tangs have been bred? How about the THOUSANDS of other fish that have not been successfully bred? Of course we cannot account for every single attempt, nor their water source, or even the other variables. But to say people breed fine with them, is probably .001% of all situations. Again, geared by emotion in defending your choice in salt. (at least the probability is definitely against you being unbiased)
Not trying to be a jerk, but it irks me when people confuse opinions with facts. I know it's hard, even I find myself doing it from time to time, and I'm one of the most logical people I've ever met.
My argument was that it's been proven that one can maintain a spectacular tank with IO and RC. Are you disputing that fact? The reason why IO has been brought up is because the OP was using IO. It's a perfectly good salt and is simply not causing the issues he's having unless he got some odd batch of it.Someone else mentioned breeding fish, not me... So your tangent is not only emotionally driven, it's not even directed in the right direction.
If you would like to have an argument, perhaps some evidence to support those arguments would be a good idea in the future. Pointing towards an internet search engine doesn't quite qualify... I won't even bother tackling your tang breeding comments, because there is nothing to suggest past failed attempts have had anything to do with synthetic salt mixes.
As to you not trying to be a jerk, I'm sure it took minimal effort on your part.
Since I'm kind of new to all of this (my 65 gallon tank reached 6 months today) I have a question to ask. Is there any reason why Tropic Marin Bio-Actif (salt I've been using) is not used by experienced reefers?
Since I'm kind of new to all of this (my 65 gallon tank reached 6 months today) I have a question to ask. Is there any reason why Tropic Marin Bio-Actif (salt I've been using) is not used by experienced reefers?
Tropic Marin is probably the most used Salt in Europe where people are more concerned with Quality and Value than with Price.
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One of the lfs guys told me it's more expensive in the US cause of the cost to import. Idk how accurate, but that what I was told anyway.You sure about that? Sounds like a pretty broad statement for an entire continent.
Also, I'm curious how much Tropic Marine basic salt is compared to basic Instant Ocean over there in Europe where TM is made?
What incredible condescension.Here's a good place to start. Http://www.google.com
Lithium effects can be seen far beyond just urchins.
To pretend it has to only be certain levels is to invite assumptions. It's the same as saying 5 beers are not toxic.
Constructive intellectual conversations can be had by anyone, so don't sell yourself short. It's indeed funny to see the emotions come forth when you "diss" someone's choice in salt. ☺
Coralife, $40 for 200g shipped. Nothing but awesome sps results for the last 12 years. I've seen more tanks that can't keep SPS using red sea coral pro than any other salt. Experienced SPS keepers....
You sure about that? Sounds like a pretty broad statement for an entire continent.
Also, I'm curious how much Tropic Marine basic salt is compared to basic Instant Ocean over there in Europe where TM is made?
One of the lfs guys told me it's more expensive in the US cause of the cost to import. Idk how accurate, but that what I was told anyway.
That is what Reefers in Europe have told me.
Don't see why they would have any reason to Lie About.
Tropic Marin has been around for Over 40 Years I Believe.
They have quite the reputation in the Hobby.
I am sure that has something to do with it but They use the Highest Grade in Sodium Chloride which makes it much much more expensive than American Brands.
What incredible condescension.