BRS Heater Meltdown

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This is describing my recent experience with the Bulk Reef Supply Heating System: https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/titanium-aquarium-heater-system-bulk-reef-supply.html

Let me start off by saying that I generally love BRS. I think the videos and the information they put out is top-notch. I also think that Ryan generally wants to help the reef/aquarium hobby industry, and I love that about BRS. However, this is about a safety issue with one of the products that nearly resulted in catastrophe, and the poor customer service I received afterwards.


So we all know that heaters fail, which is why investing in a quality set up and a controller is a good idea. I recently purchased a couple of larger coral colonies, and set them up in my fish QT for a fishless fallow period (no fish in the QT). About a month ago, I upgraded the heater in the system to one of the BRS new heating systems in an effort to ensure a healthy QT experience for fish, or in this case, large coral colonies. In the setup process, I ensured that the cords went down to the ground so that any dripping saltwater would get absorbed by the carpet before the cords went up to the outlet. The heater cord plugged into the controller which set up on another shelf, so again, it was physically impossible for water to drip into the outlet. The outlet is horizontally away from the tank, so really difficult to splash water on the wall and have it drip down. The bigger concern is water dripping down the cords, but again, I've accounted for that.


So flash forward to the holidays. I go on vacation to California for about ten days. When I left, the tanks were all set for a prolonged absence, everything running right. While on vacay, I notice that I can't remotely control my Alexa-enabled devices on my second floor. It seems strange, but I didn't think anything of it. The pet sitter mentions that she can't get Alexa to turn the lights on, but mentions nothing else. A few days later, my housekeeper states that she can't power on the vacuum upstairs, and she has to reset the breaker. Which means that the entire time I couldn't turn on my lights, all of the power was out to the upstairs. This includes my QT tank holding two large colonies, and a small bedroom nano tank with clowns. Housekeeper reported the clowns were alive.

I come home to find everything in order, but the room with my QT tank has a singed odor to it. I check the power outlets, and sure enough, there was an issue. The BRS controller plug (heater is plugged into the device) has completely melted. It also melted the outlet expander it was plugged into, which I've used before for other things. There is soot all around the outlet, and you can smell it still slowly over heating. I feel very lucky TBH. The controller isn't working, and thus the heater isn't working. An entire colony is dead. Luckily the second one was fine. There was no salt water dripping, nor any way for saltwater to drip on or in the outlet due to placement on the wall relative to the tank. Nothing to splash, nothing to drip, and the physics would be impossible as well. No one was home, no one touched the tank, and corals can't splash. I would be more inclined to believe it was water-oriented if it had happened after I finished a water change, etc. But not when no one is home and the tank has been sitting for a couple of days and no way for water to drip. The door to the room was also closed, so there's no chance that the cats did anything to it.

Someone mentioned that those heaters pull a lot of amps. That's unexpected, because my Apex downstairs says my Jager heaters pull less than 1 amp each. I've used that outlet and the adapter for plenty of things, like a tank heater, space heater, vacuum, etc. that pull the same, if not more, and never had a problem. Also, before I got the BRS system, there was a Jager heater plugged into it the exact same spot since September with no issues. Then within the first few weeks of using the BRS system, this happens.

I contacted BRS, and they said that this was the first time they'd heard of the controller plug melting, and they wanted to send it off to the manufacturer for study. While I appreciate that this is all that they can do, I was disappointed a bit in the customer service. I was told that heaters failing like this was just part of the industry and issues with owning a reef tank. I was taken aback by this statement. The heating system was less than a month old, and failed when the physics were impossible for saltwater to drip on it. That is not expected or normal. And it failed while I was in California and came very close to starting a fire. If it had, I would have lost everything in my condo, including my two cats. While I certainly didn't expect them to replace my colony, I was expecting them to try to compensate for such a potentially devastating experience with some swag, preferred reefer points, etc. I'm not even sure I want to run the replacement in my house now, and may opt to return the whole thing and try another system.

Again, we all expect heaters to fail, stay on, stay off, etc. What I was really upset about was that the failure expectation is not on a brand new one and not to the level of fire hazard that it posed. And the BRS customer service rep making it sound as if this was both expected and should have been anticipated.

I hope that this is a freak accident...

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Thats unfortunate. What size heaters were plugged into the controller? If it killed the controller too, perhaps the relay stuck closed and just cooked itself.
 
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Thats unfortunate. What size heaters were plugged into the controller? If it killed the controller too, perhaps the relay stuck closed and just cooked itself.

The tank is a 20g AIO, so the heaters were appropriately sized. I believe for BRS, it was the 100W, and the Jager one of the smaller models of similar size.
 

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:eek: To be honest, what you Just experienced is far less than what could have happened. Sorry that you lost a colony, but you are lucky it wasn’t anything else. I’ve always had great confidence in BRS and am sad to hear that they would not take accountability. That is very disappointing to say the least. I have one of the titanium heating elements and controller as well, may I ask what temp and what settings you set it on? Just want to understand it from all angles. Thank you for posting about it to get the word out.
 

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Wow, that is some scary stuff! I'm glad the outcome wasn't worse. While it may very well have been caused by the heater/controller, it is also possible there was an issue with the 3-outlet splitter. Will BRS get back to you after the manufacturer inspects it and report the findings? 100W certainly doesn't draw a lot of current (0.83A according the BRS).
 
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Wow, that is some scary stuff! I'm glad the outcome wasn't worse. While it may very well have been caused by the heater/controller, it is also possible there was an issue with the 3-outlet splitter. Will BRS get back to you after the manufacturer inspects it and report the findings? 100W certainly doesn't draw a lot of current (0.83A according the BRS).

I'm not sure if they'll get back to me, but I expect not. It was definitely scary! I cannot totally discount the splitter without a fire investigation, however, the splitter had been used with the previous heater for four months with NO issues. (The outlet is loose, so the splitter helps to keep the plug in place). The splitter had also been used for a space heater, an air purifier, a vacuum, etc. The "new" factor in the equation was the BRS system. And 1amp should not be enough to overload one of those when they are manufactured for up to several amps.
 
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A thought...

I see a smart home type plug or a plug expand. Was your heater plugged into that first, then it to the wall? If so, I wouldn't recommend that with high amperage devices. Stereo, heater, reef device, refrigerator, power tools, or microwave. Those types of things.
 

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That is some serious scary stuff going on there and could have been ten fold worse, luckily it wasn’t. I normally trust BRS but shall steer well clear of these products. The only heaters I trust in my tanks are Eheim Jager’s and that’s it.
 
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:eek: To be honest, what you Just experienced is far less than what could have happened. Sorry that you lost a colony, but you are lucky it wasn’t anything else. I’ve always had great confidence in BRS and am sad to hear that they would not take accountability. That is very disappointing to say the least. I have one of the titanium heating elements and controller as well, may I ask what temp and what settings you set it on? Just want to understand it from all angles. Thank you for posting about it to get the word out.

I had it set to 78 degrees, which is generally what I run my tanks at. And I totally agree...I am lucky I had a home and pets to come home to after that! I'm incredibly paranoid right now, and am checking the outlets every day now and feeling for heat! I also have woken up a couple of times freaked out about a fire starting.
 
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A thought...

I see a smart home type plug or a plug expand. Was your heater plugged into that first, then it to the wall? If so, I wouldn't recommend that with high amperage devices. Stereo, heater, reef device, refrigerator, power tools, or microwave. Those types of things.

I cannot totally discount the splitter without a fire investigation, however, the splitter had been used with the previous heater for four months with NO issues. (The outlet is loose, so the splitter helps to keep the plug in place). The splitter had also been used for a space heater, an air purifier, a vacuum, etc. The "new" factor in the equation was the BRS system. And 1amp should not be enough to overload one of those when they are manufactured for up to several amps.
 

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Do you think it was the heater that malfunctioned or just the controller? Did you test the heater by itself after to see if it still worked? I know those controllers are just rebranded inkbirds...
 
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So an update.... I contacted BRS to return the whole system and spoke with Ashley. She is a wonderful customer service agent, and certainly made me feel like this should never have happened and understood why I'm freaked out by it. That is the level of customer service I expect from BRS, and I appreciate the additional steps she's taking to assist me.
 

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Hi @truetricia,
This is some scary stuff; we're really happy to learn that it wasn't worse. I'm also happy to hear that Ashley was able to help with the return and with putting your mind at ease. While we don't want to draw conclusions prematurely, the photos seem to suggest that the splitter, or maybe even wall outlet, may have been the cause here. The loose outlet should certainly be replaced by an electrician to avoid potential issues in the future, regardless of what happened here. Once we have the heater system back here, we'll be better able to find out exactly what happened. If you need anything at all in the meantime, please don't hesitate to send us a private message. We're here to help in any way we can.
 

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What is the splitter amp rating? How many amps does the heater draw compared to other things plugged into the splitter? What else was plugged into that splitter?

In fire investigations you search for the hot spot or where most damage was. Looking at that your splitter couldn’t handle the amp draw and it was the hotspot. It heated up melted and shorted.

All electricians and firemen will tell you that plug splitters are the biggest fire hazard there is.
 

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Tricia, sorry to hear about your home and tanks. I deal with this stuff every day, people bring these things into work so they can charge their phones, power radios, coffee pots, microwaves etc. They can work fine for years then one day I get a call to reset a breaker and I find a meltdown. Once a device gets hot the metal contacts get soft and loosen up, its just goes down hill from there and that is what you end up with. Always use a quality power strip or device. Sorry
This is a loose or undersized connection plain and simple.
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