Hi Tim,No sand in the sump no, you can use a couple a pieces of live rock should you wish for the algae to anchor.
What is the reason for not having sand in the sump?
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Hi Tim,No sand in the sump no, you can use a couple a pieces of live rock should you wish for the algae to anchor.
No need for it. Simple as that really.Hi Tim,
What is the reason for not having sand in the sump?
When was the lighting changed?
No change to the lighting other than adding a third Kessil AP700 near the end of the 52Weeks FAQ. We did change the refugium lighting to the H1200 instead of the H350, because Ryan needed a new toy on the tank!
-Randy
Was that about a month prior to switching over to the Triton method? Was intensity lowered on the original fixtures when you added the third?
Shameless quoted from national lampoons vegas vacation.I'm going triton and thinking about adding MarinePure to the sump to help with what will be a high bioload (cycle finished last night). I'm pretty sure that it has been debunked already, but out of curiosity what are the Aluminum numbers like in the 160 with all that MarinePure. It never hurts to be sure
Shameless quoted from national lampoons vegas vacation.
They didn't do triton a triton test before removing the blocks, or won't admit it, either way, but depending on your water volume your aluminum can definitely reach 100 μg/L in the first 6 months. Triton recommends 2 μg/L. Some corals won't care. Some will die. Al starts to taper off after 6 months, but will still be quite elevated after a year, even doing 10% weekly water changes. Long term MP doesn't have that much of an advantage over cured live rock anyway. If you must have MP in your sump it would be best to at a minimum to cure it in a container for several months first. If you are going to have one block in 200 gallons it might not be that bad. If you have a 55 gallon tank with soft corals many will probably suffer. Rinsing the blocks well won't eliminate this result either. Lithium will also be quite elevated - less of a concern.Sorry, not a National Lampoon fan....
Thank you! More rock in the sump it is. Running out of room...They didn't do triton a triton test before removing the blocks, or won't admit it, either way, but depending on your water volume your aluminum can definitely reach 100 μg/L in the first 6 months. Triton recommends 2 μg/L. Some corals won't care. Some will die. Al starts to taper off after 6 months, but will still be quite elevated after a year, even doing 10% weekly water changes. Long term MP doesn't have that much of an advantage over cured live rock anyway. If you must have MP in your sump it would be best to at a minimum to cure it in a container for several months first. If you are going to have one block in 200 gallons it might not be that bad. If you have a 55 gallon tank with soft corals many will probably suffer. Rinsing the blocks well won't eliminate this result either. Lithium will also be quite elevated - less of a concern.
I'm going triton and thinking about adding MarinePure to the sump to help with what will be a high bioload (cycle finished last night). I'm pretty sure that it has been debunked already, but out of curiosity what are the Aluminum numbers like in the 160 with all that MarinePure. It never hurts to be sure
Thanks! After what Scott said I think I’ll steer clear for now. I don’t have the cash to pee on the electric fence for myself.Here's a snapshot look into our test for October, however the Marine Pure in the BRS160 was removed shortly after that episode was shot. Unfortunately at that time a couple years ago, ICP-OES analysis wasn't as popular as it is now, so we don't have any detailed data from back then.
Why did you continue to use some of the zeovit products (aminos) with the triton system?
The Triton Core7 doesn't have amino acids or coral foods, just major/minor/trace elements. We are using a few of the Zeovit products that are coral foods and amino acids for extra nutrition for the corals.
-Randy
1) is this an okay setup for the Triton method or should i still physically change the locations and the equipment?
Triton recommends that the primary drains enter the refugium first, then flow into the skimmer chamber then finally into the return pump chamber. This way 100% of the water gets exposed to the refugium at a 10x turnover rate.
2) should i move my skimmer to the chaeto fuge tank?
The concern with having them in the same chamber is that you would possibly be battling with the skimmer pump getting clogged fairly regularly. The Chaeto can get broken into several pieces pretty easily.
3) My chaeto won't grow (probably because of the poor lightning in the fuge), should i hence build an additional glass wall right after the fuge overflow pipe's location and remove the pump with the sock that is there now? I have a feeling that in addition to poor light the pump creates too much water tention for chaeto to swallow.
I think the two biggest issues with stalled Chaeto is that 1) Poor refugium lighting, and 2) Too little algae to begin with. If you haven't already, check out our Chaeto and refugium testing series which shares some very compelling evidence on how important proper lighting can be. Along with that, you may want to start with a fairly large amount of algae, so that it has a chance to out-compete the display and hair algae.
4) Perhaps a good idea to add chaeto to the water change tank if i'm good to go with the triton method?
The Triton Method is a simple refugium, skimmer and 10x turnover, (and possibly the occasional GFO if absolutely needed). Outside of that you purposefully dose major, minor and trace elements to match natural seawater as closely as possible. Anything extra is exactly that, extra.
5) That nasty cyano should be gone if the fuge's working well they say. Well i'm pretty sure my main tank flow is good enough with 2x stream 3's, but i'm guessing that i need a few gobi's for the sandbed cleaning and perhaps something else? any tips would be awesome.
There has been many reefers who've had success with increased flow or creatures that stir up the sand. In many other cases, some sort of varied approach is necessary.
For people who want to try the triton method and follow their directions. Triton doesn't say anything about using those types are products. Will people have an issue with not enough nutrients unless they dose aminos because of the algae bed being so efficient?
This is exactly what we are testing for in the next evolution of our Chaetomorpha and Refugium testing, currently on the BRS160. Check out our latest update video we posted last week HERE.