Here is the interesting question: Whenever you see some 'relatively new person' asking for an ID on some stick or zoa...does your blood boil knowing they are falling and perpetuating the problem? I used to jump on those threads to try and prove my knowledge until I realized it was a fool's errand. Took me a dozen or so threads to realize why it was so hard to name a frag...because so many of the frags were the same with different names based on which vendor wanted to push a signature piece.