Is this ich?

[scubaboy]

I have not added anything to my system In many months. I have a clown that started acting weird. It shake and stays off to itself and today I noticed what look like white spots.

thoughts?

 

[Lavey29]

If it looks like it is covered in powder dust under blue lights it's brook disease. I had 2 clowns in my tank for several months healthy before brook set in.

 

[scubaboy]

I have not added anything to my system In many months. I have a clown that started acting weird. It shake and stays off to itself and today I noticed what look like white spots.

thoughts?

Here is another picture.

 

[scubaboy]

So if that is what it is, what do I do?

Here is another picture.

 

[Lavey29]

Are they the only fish in your tank? Any inverts?

It's best to consult with Jay here on R2R for diagnosis and treatment.

 

[Lavey29]

Meds with formalin dosed in a QT tank seem to be one of the only options for treating serious fish disease if that is brook. They also call it clown fish disease.

 

[scubaboy]

So if that is what it is, what do I do?

@vetteguy53081 i read a post that you mentioned that white spots could be poor water quality which I am fighting right now. My NO3 & PO4 are elevated externally high. I had to medicate my DT due to a bacterial infection and it whipped my bacteria out which I am trying to re-establish.

could that be what this is? I have not added ANYTHING to my tank in many months.

 

[scubaboy]

@vetteguy53081 i read a post that you mentioned that white spots could be poor water quality which I am fighting right

Meds with formalin dosed in a QT tank seem to be one of the only options for treating serious fish disease if that is brook. They also call it clown fish disease.

now. My NO3 & PO4 are elevated externally high. I had to medicate my DT due to a bacterial infection and it whipped my bacteria out which I am trying to re-establish.

could that be what this is? I have not added ANYTHING to my tank in many months.

Meds with formalin dosed in a QT tank seem to be one of the only options for treating serious fish disease if that is brook. They also call it clown fish disease.

So I just went through 8 weeks of medicating my DT for a bacterial infection.

I did;

1 week of Prazi while feeding Metro
1 week of Neoplex
3 weeks of Kanaplex
Water changes and required breaks in between

how can I have another disease?

thanks for your help!

 

[Lavey29]

So I just went through 8 weeks of medicating my DT for a bacterial infection.

I did;

1 week of Prazi while feeding Metro
1 week of Neoplex
3 weeks of Kanaplex
Water changes and required breaks in between

how can I have another disease?

thanks for your help!

I'll defer to some of the experts here but if your clown has brook, those meds are not effective for it from what I have read. Bacteria can enter your tank in many ways. If you wiped out your good bacteria treating the DT then bad bacteria can easily gain an edge if it gets in.

How long has your clown showed symptoms?

 

[scubaboy]

I'll defer to some of the experts here but if your clown has brook, those meds are not effective for it from what I have read. Bacteria can enter your tank in many ways. If you wiped out your good bacteria treating the DT then bad bacteria can easily gain an edge if it gets in.

How long has your clown showed symptoms?

Just noticed today and now that I look at my others, they have issues too.

 

[vetteguy53081]

@vetteguy53081 i read a post that you mentioned that white spots could be poor water quality which I am fighting right now. My NO3 & PO4 are elevated externally high. I had to medicate my DT due to a bacterial infection and it whipped my bacteria out which I am trying to re-establish.

could that be what this is? I have not added ANYTHING to my tank in many months.

Unfortunately, this is Brooklynella which can mimic ich. If it hasnt happened yet, fish may scrape up against objects, rapid respiration develops, and fish often gasp for air at the surface as the gills become clogged with mucus. Very quickly the fish will become lethargic, refuse to eat, and its colors will fade. The most noticeable symptom of Brooklynella is the heavy amount of slime that is produced by a fish that has contracted this parasite. As the disease progresses, a thick whitish mucus covers the body. This will usually start at the head and spread outward across the entire body. Skin lesions appear and it is not uncommon for signs of secondary bacterial infections.

Typical treatment is a standard formalin solution is mixed with either fresh or saltwater in a separate treatment container. Initially, all fish are given a quick dip in the formalin at a higher concentration, followed by continued treatment in a prolonged bath of formalin at a lower concentration in a quarantine tank (QT). Of course, the longer the fish are exposed to the formalin treatment, the more effective it will be at eliminating this disease.
If a formalin solution is not available for immediate use, temporary relief may be provided by giving fish a FW bath or dip. Even though this treatment will not cure the disease, it can help to remove some of the parasites, as well as reduce the amount of mucus in the gills to assist with respiration problems.
Treatment is best done in a QT tank. You can use quick cure or if none. . . ruby rally pro which takes a little longer than quick cure

 

[Lavey29]

All clowns?

 

[scubaboy]

yes all clowns, but i dont understand how they got it anfd whatr about my other fish?

I havent added anything to my system for many months

 

[scubaboy]

yes all clowns, but i dont understand how they got it anfd whatr about my other fish?

I havent added anything to my system for many months

can i treat the DT so the other fish are cured also?

 

[scubaboy]

can i treat the DT so the other fish are cured also?

Would a Prazi treatment for the entire DT help?

 

[scubaboy]

Would a Prazi treatment for the entire DT help?

Is this on my cardinal also?

 

[Lavey29]

yes all clowns, but i dont understand how they got it anfd whatr about my other fish?

I havent added anything to my system for many months

They call it clownfish disease because it typically starts with clowns. It can be dormant for months and then go active. Usually death within 48 hours. It can infect all fish but some may not get the disease. It wiped out 5 fish in mine. If you can QT the fish with symptoms you might save some others. In order to clean the tank you need a 6 week fallow period too.

 

[Lyss]

Can you share photos of them under white light? It’s really hard to see with the blue.

As for Brook, you’ve got two responses that say what to do. Prazipro isn’t going to do anything to help. You need to treat them as outlined above in a separate tank or container.

 

[scubaboy]

Can you share photos of them under white light? It’s really hard to see with the blue.

As for Brook, you’ve got two responses that say what to do. Prazipro isn’t going to do anything to help. You need to treat them as outlined above in a separate tank or container.

I don’t see the spots under a white light or flash light.

 

[scubaboy]

I don’t see the spots under a white light or flash light.

Thank you all for your responses.

Is it normal for it to infect all 4 of my captive bred clowns at once?