Im a brand new reefer hoping to get and learn some knowledge with you guys/girls. I did a lot of research over the last year and my biggest confusion is if i should go with the MP40's or the Neptune WAV. I always read how silent and powerful the MP40's are but I do love how the neptune WAV you can put on the side-back wall so theres no obstructions on the side of tank. will you guys help me and give me the pros -cons to each if any? thank you
Mp40 or Neptune WAV
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Broadfield
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I assume you have an Apex if you are considering the WAVs? I have owned both and here is my opinion... take it for what it's worth
- Each WAV kit has the same flow as an MP40WQD... maybe slightly more.
- The WAV pump is just as quiet, and some tests show that they are actually quieter than an MP40WQD.
- The WAV pumps are far cheaper than an MP40WQD... especially if you own the "new" Apex. You would also need to purchase the WXM to get the Vortech to work with the Apex.
- The WAV pumps have the same modes as the Vortechs.
- The WAV pumps can be angled.
- The WAV pumps shut off instantly when taken out of the water.
- The WAV pumps shut off instantly if something clogs it... snails etc.
- The WAV pump cage doesn't fall off, ever. The Vortechs do once the o-rings get slightly old, or at least mine did.
- The WAV pump magnet is insanely strong.
- MP40WQD has a smaller footprint inside of the tank... nice and clean. The round shape and low profile is VERY welcoming.
- You do not need an Apex, or anything else for that matter, to use them.
- MP40WQD does not have any wires that go inside of the tank. Now this is something that is bragged about by some, but I don't think it's that important of a feature for the common reefer. The only way that this is even a valid point is if you are doing them on a peninsula tank and doing them at the end where the overflow is. Or doing them on the ends of a tank, where the tank is in a wall, and the ends of the tank are not viewable. Or possibly if you are doing them on the back wall of a tank that is really wide and has a solid colored background on the glass. Because Vortechs do not work very well, or at least not near as well as the WAVs, on the back wall when it's not a wide tank... which is the case for the common reefer. Most of us do not have 30"+ wide tanks. And if the tank does not have a solid colored background, then you are going to see the cables regardless.
- The MP40WQD has large motors that mount on the outside of the tank. Most reefers have the ends of the tank viewable and have their Vortechs mounted at the ends of the tank. Because well, they work really well there! But I personally hate seeing the huge motor assembly of a Vortech hanging on the outside of my tank.
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Brookfield thank you for that amazing review! i really appreciate it! yes i will be getting the APEX
Thankyou for the great review, thats exactly what i needed to read! Yes i will be controlling it via APEX!I assume you have an Apex if you are considering the WAVs? I have owned both and here is my opinion... take it for what it's worth
- Each WAV kit has the same flow as an MP40WQD... maybe slightly more.
- The WAV pump is just as quiet, and some tests show that they are actually quieter than an MP40WQD.
- The WAV pumps are far cheaper than an MP40WQD... especially if you own the "new" Apex. You would also need to purchase the WXM to get the Vortech to work with the Apex.
- The WAV pumps have the same modes as the Vortechs.
- The WAV pumps can be angled.
- The WAV pumps shut off instantly when taken out of the water.
- The WAV pumps shut off instantly if something clogs it... snails etc.
- The WAV pump cage doesn't fall off, ever. The Vortechs do once the o-rings get slightly old, or at least mine did.
- The WAV pump magnet is insanely strong.
- MP40WQD has a smaller footprint inside of the tank... nice and clean. The round shape and low profile is VERY welcoming.
- You do not need an Apex, or anything else for that matter, to use them.
- MP40WQD does not have any wires that go inside of the tank. Now this is something that is bragged about by some, but I don't think it's that important of a feature for the common reefer. The only way that this is even a valid point is if you are doing them on a peninsula tank and doing them at the end where the overflow is. Or doing them on the ends of a tank, where the tank is in a wall, and the ends of the tank are not viewable. Or possibly if you are doing them on the back wall of a tank that is really wide and has a solid colored background on the glass. Because Vortechs do not work very well, or at least not near as well as the WAVs, on the back wall when it's not a wide tank... which is the case for the common reefer. Most of us do not have 30"+ wide tanks. And if the tank does not have a solid colored background, then you are going to see the cables regardless.
- The MP40WQD has large motors that mount on the outside of the tank. Most reefers have the ends of the tank viewable and have their Vortechs mounted at the ends of the tank. Because well, they work really well there! But I personally hate seeing the huge motor assembly of a Vortech hanging on the outside of my tank.
Broadfield
Red Sea Reefer Consultant... Non Affiliated
Perfect!
Broadfield
Red Sea Reefer Consultant... Non Affiliated
I have mine on a 450... essentially the same dimensions as the 525XL. The 525 is just a little under 3" wider than the 450.
IMG_4278 by Toby Broadfield, on Flickr
KJAG
Rogue
Can't comment on the WAV, but It's been years since I've owned a Vortech pump since switching to Tunze. But I used to have a beer fridge in my garage that had a collection of an MP20, and two MP40's, that failed shortly after the warranty expired. I used them as fridge magnets. Perhaps they offer a longer lasting product these days.
beautiful tank! hopefully I'm at that level one day lol!I have mine on a 450... essentially the same dimensions as the 525XL. The 525 is just a little under 3" wider than the 450.
I've had both the MP40 (non QD) and wav's...you can't go wrong either way. The apex / wav combo also makes for easier programming plus all the pluses broadfield mentioned.
Marc.The.Shark
Active Member
What light is that?I have mine on a 450... essentially the same dimensions as the 525XL. The 525 is just a little under 3" wider than the 450.
That's the Giesemann Aurora...amazing light. I've got one over my tank too.
Caseyoidae
Valuable Member
Thanks for the great write up! I remember you from another forum years ago lol Your tank belongs in magazines! Absolutely amazing work!
IMG_4278 by Toby Broadfield, on Flickr[/QUOTE]
IMG_4278 by Toby Broadfield, on Flickr[/QUOTE]
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