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DOn't we already have a way to get rid of them - without a test - i.e. a water change? I guess If I had an RTN/STN problem - I would not want to rely on a NDOC test that can take a wee - I wonder - if you know the rationale why you can't just do a large water change. Putting it another way - how do you remove NDOC - besides water changes and or activated carbon? I am just not seeing the reason for the NDOC test - and hope since you have used it you might know the rationale?You are completely right in something. Every tank is different. I'm not posting information to convince you to use it. I respect your opinion.
My opinion is that any bacteria problem has almost the same roots. Now we have a tool (NDOC) that helps us to see those roots and get rid of them.
We also have a different treatment with very good science behind it that gives us a good chance to save our corals.
The information that I share is much more valuable than just random negative coments.
By the time I got the NDOC test results (three to four weeks) the corals were dead? With the calculator can we replace nitrogen and phosphorus with nitrate and phosphate values?RTN-X and STN-X
Slow Tissue Necrosis (STN) and Rapid Tissue Necrosis (RTN) are two common problems that have become increasingly prevalent in the modern reef aquarium with the growing popularity of small polyp stony coral (SPS) dominated systems. Although this issue can result from parasitic infestation, primary or secondary bacterial infection is another cause of tissue necrosis in our corals.
RTN-X and STN-X were derived through TRITON’s unique scientific work in N-DOC lab testing establishing the TRITON N : C : P Ratio. They can be used to aid corals against bacterial types of rapid tissue necrosis.
These products work to create an environment within the aquarium that shock the bacteria attacking the affected coral while, at the same time, providing specific elements that help to fortify the coral that is under attack. The shocking affect of this product is achieved by an intensive “in tank” bath which means that the infected coral does not need to be removed from the aquarium. A solution is prepared using the aquarium water in conjunction with either RTN-X or STN-X and after 20 minutes is ready for application. Minimize or stop water flow around the affected coral for maximum efficacy. If nutrient amounts are known, ideally through N-DOC testing, a very effective ratio adjustment can be administered prior to the intensive bath. Use our online calculator for optimal treatment information.
These products cannot prevent further deterioration of affected corals if the underlying stressors are not identified and addressed but will acutely treat the bacteria causing tissue necrosis.
Ideally used in conjunction with TRITON N-DOC lab tests to accurately dial in the dose rate, there is also a generic dose rate if exact water parameters are not available.
RTN-X and STN-X do not contain any from of antibiotic or aggressive heavy metals and are safe to use with any reef system.
Both products were designed in Australia and produced in Germany.
Definitely pays to do regular N-DOC and ICP testing to avoid this issue.By the time I got the NDOC test results (three to four weeks) the corals were dead? With the calculator can we replace nitrogen and phosphorus with nitrate and phosphate values?
Unfortunately you cannot just substitute Nitrogen and Phosphorous with Nitrate and Phosphate as they are not the same and will give incorrect dosage information.By the time I got the NDOC test results (three to four weeks) the corals were dead? With the calculator can we replace nitrogen and phosphorus with nitrate and phosphate values?
Got it. ThanksFor the calculator to work you Need these values: TNb, P (Not PO4) and Total Liters
It looks like you are using other values.
That address is fine to send your samples to.@Julian@Triton sending in an old NDOC test today. Is it still 16116 Covello st Van Nuys here in the US? Thank you
If you read through this thread I think you can see many examples of where both STN-X and RTN-X have worked for people with these issues. I have spoken to numerous aquarists who have had great success but if you don't address the underlying issues that cause the issue then there is no miracle cure. TRITON ICP and N-DOC testing will give you insights into all aspects of your water chemistry and help to get your system back in balance.Update for anyone who has used this? I assume it’s not working well for everyone since I don’t see anyone talking about it. Just wondering. Thanks.