Was This Uronema Or Something Else/

[Cetus]

Recently, a Talbot's Damselfish I acquired from LiveAquaria died a few days after introduction to a QT Tank. I'm not sure what killed it but given that it's a damselfish, I'm wary that it might've been uronema but I never saw any of the trademark uronema burns on it before or after death. It just kinda got paler and eventually I found it on its side in the tank corner so maybe it was ammonia poisoning? The reason I'm worried is because I'm not sure if I need to sterilize my QT Tank for uronema since I know it can persist without a fish host. Worried also about how I'm going to deal with my snails and pistol shrimp since I wonder if they were exposed as well and I'm wondering if a prevantative metronidazole dosing period would be alright with the shrimp in particular since I know they're sensative.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Recently, a Talbot's Damselfish I acquired from LiveAquaria died a few days after introduction to a QT Tank. I'm not sure what killed it but given that it's a damselfish, I'm wary that it might've been uronema but I never saw any of the trademark uronema burns on it before or after death. It just kinda got paler and eventually I found it on its side in the tank corner so maybe it was ammonia poisoning? The reason I'm worried is because I'm not sure if I need to sterilize my QT Tank for uronema since I know it can persist without a fish host. Worried also about how I'm going to deal with my snails and pistol shrimp since I wonder if they were exposed as well and I'm wondering if a prevantative metronidazole dosing period would be alright with the shrimp in particular since I know they're sensative.

Looks like uronema but often hard to tell on a dead fish especially after 2 hours of death

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Recently, a Talbot's Damselfish I acquired from LiveAquaria died a few days after introduction to a QT Tank. I'm not sure what killed it but given that it's a damselfish, I'm wary that it might've been uronema but I never saw any of the trademark uronema burns on it before or after death. It just kinda got paler and eventually I found it on its side in the tank corner so maybe it was ammonia poisoning? The reason I'm worried is because I'm not sure if I need to sterilize my QT Tank for uronema since I know it can persist without a fish host. Worried also about how I'm going to deal with my snails and pistol shrimp since I wonder if they were exposed as well and I'm wondering if a prevantative metronidazole dosing period would be alright with the shrimp in particular since I know they're sensative.

I'm not quite sure of the timeline here - you bought the damsel and put it in a tank with the snails and shrimp and then moved it to a QT?
Were there other fish in the shipment or exposed to this fish?

This doesn't look like Uronema to me, and if it was, you don't need to sterilize your tank for that - Uronema is often found in established aquariums as a free living protozoan - it only seems to cause disease in newly acquired fish.

Jay

 

[Cetus]

I'm not quite sure of the timeline here - you bought the damsel and put it in a tank with the snails and shrimp and then moved it to a QT?
Were there other fish in the shipment or exposed to this fish?

This doesn't look like Uronema to me, and if it was, you don't need to sterilize your tank for that - Uronema is often found in established aquariums as a free living protozoan - it only seems to cause disease in newly acquired fish.

Jay

Shipping actually. I acquired them together in the same box and opened their bags pretty close to each other. Both have separate tanks but water may have crossed over between the two during acclimation.

 

[Cetus]

Looks like uronema but often hard to tell on a dead fish especially after 2 hours of death

So what do I do about it? Will Metroplex sterilize the tank and is it safe on inverts that might potentially be exposed?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

So what do I do about it? Will Metroplex sterilize the tank and is it safe on inverts that might potentially be exposed?

Metroplex will not "sterilize" a tank, it really isn't very effective against Uronema in any event. Chloroquine is a better choice, but as I said, you don't need to do that....

Here is a link to an article I wrote back when I was searching for a cure for this disease:

Uronema / Red Band Disease - Hemdal

Red Band Syndrome in Marine Fishes: Caused by the Protozoan; Uronema sp. Jay Hemdal Introduction: This moderately common disease of certain species of marine fish is so often misdiagnosed that most aquarists apply incorrect treatment methods...

www.reef2reef.com

Jay

 

[vetteguy53081]

So what do I do about it? Will Metroplex sterilize the tank and is it safe on inverts that might potentially be exposed?

It is safe with inverts. Quarantine is always advantageous as Metro will address internal issues- Not fix a tank issue

 

[Cetus]

Metroplex will not "sterilize" a tank, it really isn't very effective against Uronema in any event. Chloroquine is a better choice, but as I said, you don't need to do that....

Here is a link to an article I wrote back when I was searching for a cure for this disease:

Uronema / Red Band Disease - Hemdal

Red Band Syndrome in Marine Fishes: Caused by the Protozoan; Uronema sp. Jay Hemdal Introduction: This moderately common disease of certain species of marine fish is so often misdiagnosed that most aquarists apply incorrect treatment methods...

www.reef2reef.com

Jay

So just let them finish up their normal QT process and its fine?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

So just let them finish up their normal QT process and its fine?

Do you mean a full quarantine? Can you describe it?
Jay

 

[Cetus]

Do you mean a full quarantine? Can you describe it?
Jay

The 45 day fallow for inverts.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

The 45 day fallow for inverts.

A minimum of 45 days at 81 F. 60 days is safer if the temperature is lower. But Uronema is going to be free-living in the tank anyway. The fallow period is designed to protect against ich, velvet and egg laying flukes.

Jay