Wrasse for pest control.. All of them good?

cnseekatz

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Dec 15, 2014
Messages
544
Reaction score
699
Location
Newport Beach, CA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Melanurus are excellent hunters, but will trash smaller snails & shrimp, and can/will become bullies to other fish in the tank, especially other wrasses. Sixlines are awesome as well, but can also become aggressive. I would only introduce them if they're the smallest fish in your tank, or you have a serious issue with flatworms or zoanthid eating nudis.

I keep leopard wrasses, and I find them much more polite members in my reef. They're active hunters, though probably not quite as much as the two above. My chaoti is a stellar hunter though, as active (if not more) than the sixline and melanurus.
 

Anthony kolodziej

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Oct 7, 2015
Messages
136
Reaction score
74
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I got both a melanurus and a chrysus hoping they would help with flatworms. I've not seen either partake. Still love the fish but no help with my pests.

For these a target dragonett works well . I have a pair that eats anything
 

1stNoel

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Aug 30, 2015
Messages
683
Reaction score
739
Location
UCF. Go Knights!!!
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Typically no, but it's not impossible. It would not be my first suspicion.

While in their tubes, no; there are none. If you manually break the tubes and expose the worm, many Halichoeres will figure out they're tasty.

Pods are their primary diet; may eat some other small critters on the substrate but don't count on it. Completely CUC safe.

I almost purchased a Leopard Wrasse today, but my LFS recommended against it since I have a barebottom tank. It is 300g with plenty of rocks and hiding places. I also have an acclimation box that I can place him in, along with a 55g quarantine tank to make sure he's eating and pest free before introducing him to the display tank. I've been able to keep finicky fish like the Copperband Butterfly and Powder Blue Tang without issue.

I've seen Melanurus Wrasses kept in barebottom tanks, so is it an absolute "no go" with a Leopard Wrasse if I don't have sand?
 

Friday24

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Jul 17, 2012
Messages
324
Reaction score
117
Location
Florida
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
you need a sandbed for any of the Halichoeres species as well, they all bury at night.
 

Stigigemla

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Mar 20, 2015
Messages
904
Reaction score
829
Location
sweden
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
The scooter blennies and mandarins are good att eating the usual flatworms. Normaly one is enough to clean up a heavy infested 150 gallon. It will take a month but they do it. By me the Halichoeres is far better in cleaning up the corals.
A tray of a few square decimeters with 5 cm sand is enough for most wrasses.
 

maroun.c

Moderator
View Badges
Joined
Feb 13, 2011
Messages
4,157
Reaction score
6,485
Location
Lebanon
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I have 2 scooter blennies, a pair of mandarins, mated pair of melanurus, multiple leopards yellow Cories, radiant Wrass and couple of dragon face pipefish. All of these have been considered as pest control, though I bought them as I wanted them and not really for pest control. My CUC (snails) seems fine and my shrimps group was untouched including a couple of sexy shrimps in the tank since more than a year.
A previous melanurus has nipped on clams once and was removed to a cube where it was well fed and didn't touch another clam I tried in there.
 

Maxxingout

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Oct 21, 2015
Messages
44
Reaction score
25
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I have 4 wrasses, Melanurus, male and female blue star leopard, and a Anampses neoguinaicus (China wrasse). Out of all 4 the China wrasse hunts like you're watching TV at 1.5x fast compard to the other 3. Beautiful fish, reef safe, and very fun to watch. If you get a chance to get 1 I'd recommend it. They do bury in sand at night just a fyi.
 

Pola0502ds

Zoa Addict
View Badges
Joined
Jan 13, 2016
Messages
1,574
Reaction score
880
Location
Poland, Ohio
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I have a melanarus and it is always on the hunt and does a good job. Have never seen him pick on any other fish or CUC member.
 

Mrx

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Jan 28, 2014
Messages
129
Reaction score
121
Location
Sunrise, Fl
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
72089b90760666044de3c2c809474feb.jpg
 

evolved

[email protected]
View Badges
Joined
Dec 16, 2010
Messages
10,633
Reaction score
11,975
Location
Phoenix, AZ
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I almost purchased a Leopard Wrasse today, but my LFS recommended against it since I have a barebottom tank.
Good call. Yes, the genera which sleep in the sand by nature require a sand bed. This includes the leopards (Macropharyngodon), Halichoeres, and Anampses (and some others too).
As an alternative in a bare bottom tank, you can use a "sand box"; a container with sand somewhere in the tank - possibly in a discrete location.

I've seen Melanurus Wrasses kept in barebottom tanks,
It's not a good idea, regardless. Not good for the longevity of the fish.
 

MiguelCS71

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Sep 26, 2014
Messages
186
Reaction score
76
Location
Coral Springs, FL
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Can I ask about a banana wrasse? Has anyone else had experience with this fish to inform me to say if it's good for a reeftank with crabs and shrimp.....
 

eatbreakfast

Fish Nerd
View Badges
Joined
Oct 21, 2013
Messages
14,837
Reaction score
16,238
Location
CT
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Can I ask about a banana wrasse? Has anyone else had experience with this fish to inform me to say if it's good for a reeftank with crabs and shrimp.....
The wrasse most commonly sold as a banana wrasse is Thalassoma lutescens, which will destrot shrimp and crabs, as well as can be pretty aggressive. Less frequently, but still sometimes called a banana wrasse is Halichoeres chrysus, which is much more peaceful and can usually be kept with shrimp and crabs.
 

Lentzjj

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Apr 11, 2016
Messages
62
Reaction score
22
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
So will the Christmas wrasse eat my shrimp and feather duster? I've got worms bristle and fire that need to go
 

MiguelCS71

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Sep 26, 2014
Messages
186
Reaction score
76
Location
Coral Springs, FL
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I've had two of them & they were never that aggressive, but maybe someone has had more experience. As for the feather duster I don't think any fish will bother with them. But that's just been my experience with this wrasse.
 

eatbreakfast

Fish Nerd
View Badges
Joined
Oct 21, 2013
Messages
14,837
Reaction score
16,238
Location
CT
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
So will the Christmas wrasse eat my shrimp and feather duster? I've got worms bristle and fire that need to go
There are a few species that go by the common name Christmas wrasse. Halichoeres biocellatus is pretty safe with shrimp and dusters. H. claudia is slightyly less safe, followed next by H. ornatissmus. There is a Thalassoma species that is also called Christmas wrasse, that is decidedly unsafe.
 

Wilsoni

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 4, 2015
Messages
994
Reaction score
740
Location
Salt Lake City, UT
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Melanurus are excellent hunters, but will trash smaller snails & shrimp, and can/will become bullies to other fish in the tank, especially other wrasses. Sixlines are awesome as well, but can also become aggressive. I would only introduce them if they're the smallest fish in your tank, or you have a serious issue with flatworms or zoanthid eating nudis.

I keep leopard wrasses, and I find them much more polite members in my reef. They're active hunters, though probably not quite as much as the two above. My chaoti is a stellar hunter though, as active (if not more) than the sixline and melanurus.

How long have you had your Chaoti?
 

Just grow it: Have you ever added CO2 to your reef tank?

  • I currently use a CO2 with my reef tank.

    Votes: 8 7.0%
  • I don’t currently use CO2 with my reef tank, but I have in the past.

    Votes: 4 3.5%
  • I have never used CO2 with my reef tank, but I plan to in the future.

    Votes: 5 4.4%
  • I have never used CO2 with my reef tank and have no plans to in the future.

    Votes: 92 80.7%
  • Other.

    Votes: 5 4.4%
Back
Top