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FWIW, the post of mine that flashes up is clearly in response to the ridiculous claim that I quoted, stating that carbonic acid gets depleted over time when using hydroxide. I stand by that statement and can hardly imagine it’s debatable by any chemist. If you know pH and alk in seawater, you can determine carbonic acid as they are exactly related mathematically.

It also has nothing to do with the bolus aspect of the dosing.
 

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Randy - Doug has indicated that he could have easily been a chemist if he wanted to be. He knows more about reef chemistry and biology than those with classical training, including trained marine biologists and marine chemists, because they don't farm coral and he and Claude do and they have 200.000 ICP tests to prove they are right. This is key to understanding that you are a bit out of your depth here. At least that is what was put forth in one of Doug's videos recently.
 

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Randy - Doug has indicated that he could have easily been a chemist if he wanted to be. He knows more about reef chemistry and biology than those with classical training, including trained marine biologists and marine chemists, because they don't farm coral and he and Claude do and they have 200.000 ICP tests to prove they are right. This is key to understanding that you are a bit out of your depth here. At least that is what was put forth in one of Doug's videos recently.
You sure he didn't say alchemist, lol
 

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Randy - Doug has indicated that he could have easily been a chemist if he wanted to be. He knows more about reef chemistry and biology than those with classical training, including trained marine biologists and marine chemists, because they don't farm coral and he and Claude do and they have 200.000 ICP tests to prove they are right. This is key to understanding that you are a bit out of your depth here. At least that is what was put forth in one of Doug's videos recently.

I do not doubt he could have been a chemist. The problem with learning by doing is that it is purely observational, and cannot really dissect mechanisms of things unless experiments are designed with that in mind. By far my greatest problem with their statements related to claimed mechanisms, not the observations.
 

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By far my greatest problem with their statements related to claimed mechanisms, not the observations.
I completely agree. However, for me, the issue extends beyond the claims themselves to why they are being made in the first place.

I think innocently crossing that line happens in many cases, but the pattern here is distinctly evident and orchestrated. I feel it is both predatory and propagating a tremendous amount of misinformation into this hobby that is very hard to undo.
 

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I do not doubt he could have been a chemist. The problem with learning by doing is that it is purely observational, and cannot really dissect mechanisms of things unless experiments are designed with that in mind. By far my greatest problem with their statements related to claimed mechanisms, not the observations.
I didnt think the day would come that I would not 100% go by what you are saying! The first part is where my fault lies. I have doubts.
 

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Ok ill bite

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Whaaat!? There is a graph and everything? lol
I am confused by the video and what he thinks is being proven or disproven. You add alk and ph increases, simple (sure there is stuff that could muddy the waters so to speak). How does the video relate to the reply from Randy to their disciples' post? Obviously by adding the subliminal message quote he believes he has proven some great mystery in the video or something I am missing. You know I bet his alk increased also. Although that probably didnt increase as much as it would have using a different product because you know bolus.
 

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Whaaat!? There is a graph and everything? lol
I am confused by the video and what he thinks is being proven or disproven. You add alk and ph increases, simple (sure there is stuff that could muddy the waters so to speak). How does the video relate to the reply from Randy to their disciples' post? Obviously by adding the subliminal message quote he believes he has proven some great mystery in the video or something I am missing. You know I bet his alk increased also. Although that probably didnt increase as much as it would have using a different product because you know bolus.

Lol

Sure. That’s been known for decades. When reinventing the wheel it is always best to also reinvent tires, spokes, inner tubes, etc.

I lay out the implications of bolus dosing of bicarbonate, carbonate and hydroxide on pH earlier in this thread. I tested it experimentally long, long ago.

 

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