Can my Yasha Goby and Tiger Pistol survive non medicated QT in a glass bottom tank?

[EvolvedMonkey]

I am ordering from an online store that I have never ordered from, and I'd like to observe my new fish for a few weeks before putting them in the tank.

Will these guys survive a glass bottom QT for 14 days? Not sure if the Yasha needs sand to survive.

Yasha
Tiger pistol
Leopard Wrasse
Starry blenny
Bellus Angel

The QT is cycled, but with very little algae growth. I have herbivore pellets and seaweed that the starry could hopefully learn to eat.

 

[vaguelyreeflike]

Give a good couple hiding places for the shrimp and goby and it should be fine. Rocks with smaller holes, large snail shells, small pieces of decor with a hole near the bottom etc work well. Small 1” PVC pipe may suffice also.

i would be concerned having the shrimp in with QTing fish though as if any are stressed or lay on the bottom, he could injure them depending on all their sizes. If he’s a small shrimp less than 1” long then shouldnt pack enough punch to hurt anything, but I’ve seen them internally bruise small fish before when larger.

 

[vaguelyreeflike]

Could do a hang on back breeder box with 1” of sand and put goby and shrimp, or at least just the shrimp, in there for now

 

[EvolvedMonkey]

Super good idea on the breeders box. Also maybe putting the yasha and tiger together will help them to pair up.

Do you think the Starry will be okay without algae to eat?

Also are there any parameters I should be worried about in QT tank that I may not be accounting for? It's been sitting without fish for a couple of months. Salinity/PH/Alk/Temp/Ammonia are in range.. Are there any other concerns?

 

[EvolvedMonkey]

Okay, I got it all setup per your advice.. I'll take a picture when the water clears up a bit.

 

[jrill]

I don't think I'd do a tiger with a yasha goby. Tigers get huge.

 

[EvolvedMonkey]

I don't think I'd do a tiger with a yasha goby. Tigers get huge.

2" max on the Tiger pistol.

I did lots of reading, and had limitation on which shrimp and/or goby I could get for reasons including a marine beta in the tank (larger shrimp are better on that front) and livestock availability. I decided on this pair after seeing lots of videos of a successful pairing.

Yasha/Tiger are likely to work, but you're right, it isn't the ideal pair. We'll see what happens.

 

[EvolvedMonkey]

 

[vaguelyreeflike]

I don't think I'd do a tiger with a yasha goby. Tigers get huge.

The shrimp shouldn’t hurt the goby even if he’s bigger than the fish. They will end up being pretty close to the same size.

I’ve had fully grown tigers pair up with small juvenile Stonogobiops species before with no issues. The goby can’t protect the shrimp as good as a Cryptocentrus species can, but in an aquarium the shrimp just needs a look-out and can provide the defense for the pair.
Accidents can happen, but the shrimp seem to stay cautious around their smaller friends.

 

[EvolvedMonkey]

My clowns killed two cryptocentrus cinctus.. I thought it was a fluke, but it wasn't.. Hopefully they don't do the same to the Yasha.

 

[EvolvedMonkey]

@vaguelyreeflike Any tips to increase the likelihood that the pairing is successful?

 

[vaguelyreeflike]

My clowns killed two cryptocentrus cinctus.. I thought it was a fluke, but it wasn't.. Hopefully they don't do the same to the Yasha.

The bonus there might be that it will be smaller, they’re also not as brave as Cryptocentrus so less likely to try and fight the clowns. It will hopefully retreat and let the shrimp let off some warning shots. I will say if the clowns get too confident they may end up with some bruising to the face lol.

@vaguelyreeflike Any tips to increase the likelihood that the pairing is successful?

Honestly just keeping them in a smaller area together and instinct takes care of the rest. I haven’t had any issues pairing shrimp and gobies as long as they’re introduced into roughly the same area. Only time I struggled was with a Japanese red who I learned don’t often pair up at all, and can prefer solitude lol.

When the goby hears the shrimp shooting something they often go to investigate, and it seems that the shrimp can smell the goby when it gets near. I don’t know if chemical signals play a role in their pairing, but wouldn’t be surprised.

In a breeder box they should pair quickly, and when introducing to the tank try to put them in the same area or spook the goby towards the shrimp.

For display introduction it can also be easier to release the fish first, watch where it goes to hide then hold the shrimp and manually release it next to the goby, ideally where they can see eachother.

 

[EvolvedMonkey]

The bonus there might be that it will be smaller, they’re also not as brave as Cryptocentrus so less likely to try and fight the clowns. It will hopefully retreat and let the shrimp let off some warning shots. I will say if the clowns get too confident they may end up with some bruising to the face lol.


Honestly just keeping them in a smaller area together and instinct takes care of the rest. I haven’t had any issues pairing shrimp and gobies as long as they’re introduced into roughly the same area. Only time I struggled was with a Japanese red who I learned don’t often pair up at all, and can prefer solitude lol.

When the goby hears the shrimp shooting something they often go to investigate, and it seems that the shrimp can smell the goby when it gets near. I don’t know if chemical signals play a role in their pairing, but wouldn’t be surprised.

In a breeder box they should pair quickly, and when introducing to the tank try to put them in the same area or spook the goby towards the shrimp.

For display introduction it can also be easier to release the fish first, watch where it goes to hide then hold the shrimp and manually release it next to the goby, ideally where they can see eachother.

Great stuff.. Thanks for all the valuable insight.. And if the clowns gets a little bruising to the face, it will be well deserved.

 

[jrill]

The shrimp shouldn’t hurt the goby even if he’s bigger than the fish. They will end up being pretty close to the same size.

I’ve had fully grown tigers pair up with small juvenile Stonogobiops species before with no issues. The goby can’t protect the shrimp as good as a Cryptocentrus species can, but in an aquarium the shrimp just needs a look-out and can provide the defense for the pair.
Accidents can happen, but the shrimp seem to stay cautious around their smaller friends.

That has not been my experience. Ive had tigers kill smaller gobies.

 

[jrill]

2" max on the Tiger pistol.

I did lots of reading, and had limitation on which shrimp and/or goby I could get for reasons including a marine beta in the tank (larger shrimp are better on that front) and livestock availability. I decided on this pair after seeing lots of videos of a successful pairing.

Yasha/Tiger are likely to work, but you're right, it isn't the ideal pair. We'll see what happens.

The tigers ive had have killed smaller gobies. Now i only keep watchman gobies with tigers. Hope your results differ.

 

[EvolvedMonkey]

The tigers ive had have killed smaller gobies. Now i only keep watchman gobies with tigers. Hope your results differ.

Me too. Thanks for the warning.. We'll see what happens.