Flame Angel with Marks on Fins

[Lostoften]

Noticed this morning the flame angel has two white marks on its upper fins. These do not appear to be sand stuck to the body of fish. Haven't noticed any hostility towards the flame, although he chases the anthias. Only thing concerning noticed from flame is "stringy poop" which I only observed once. The majority of diet is PE mysis fed twice daily. It is eating and breathing normally. The flame angel has been in the display tank 10 days, and underwent the full current QT protocol.

On Monday, my carpenter wrasse went missing. Assuming hiding, but had been active until now.

Nitrates are extremely high, as I was dosing based off of inaccurate NP trident readings. I am trying to bring those down, just completed 20 gallon water change last night (system volume ~150G).

Poop String

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Appreciate any insights.

 

[Lostoften]

Photo and parameters

 

[vetteguy53081]

Noticed this morning the flame angel has two white marks on its upper fins. These do not appear to be sand stuck to the body of fish. Haven't noticed any hostility towards the flame, although he chases the anthias. Only thing concerning noticed from flame is "stringy poop" which I only observed once. The majority of diet is PE mysis fed twice daily. It is eating and breathing normally. The flame angel has been in the display tank 10 days, and underwent the full current QT protocol.

On Monday, my carpenter wrasse went missing. Assuming hiding, but had been active until now.

Nitrates are extremely high, as I was dosing based off of inaccurate NP trident readings. I am trying to bring those down, just completed 20 gallon water change last night (system volume ~150G).

Poop String

Video 1

Video 2

Video 3


Appreciate any insights.

Problem with videos is the heavy blue hue from lights to clearly see the areas as White light intensity is best. The spots are too large to be ich and may be Lymphocystis which is found on many angels and butterflies

 

[Lostoften]

Problem with videos is the heavy blue hue from lights to clearly see the areas as White light intensity is best. The spots are too large to be ich and may be Lymphocystis which is found on many angels and butterflies

Okay, will try and get some under white lights. Snagged these quickly before heading out the door for work. Hoped the orange lens filter was enough.

Side note, the carpenters came back out today after hiding for two days. Then vanished back into rock work.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Okay, will try and get some under white lights. Snagged these quickly before heading out the door for work. Hoped the orange lens filter was enough.

Side note, the carpenters came back out today after hiding for two days. Then vanished back into rock work.

A water change will be an added step to assure water is up to par and assure good diet also.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Photo and parameters

Did the spots show up suddenly or did they grow over time? If the former, I’d say these are just injuries as the angel looks really good in all other aspects.

Nitrates of that level won’t harm fish, but depending on how this value pairs with phosphorus, you could get unwanted algae growth.

 

[Lostoften]

Did the spots show up suddenly or did they grow over time? If the former, I’d say these are just injuries as the angel looks really good in all other aspects.

Nitrates of that level won’t harm fish, but depending on how this value pairs with phosphorus, you could get unwanted algae growth.

I didn’t notice any marks yesterday on the angel.

I have been battling GHA for awhile, unfortunately after I noticed it getting significantly worse (and losing corals) I found out the Trident was extremely miss reading. I had been dosing nitrates and phosphate to prevent Dino’s again, and the nitrates were too high via Salifert and Hanna to read. For the past two weeks I have been doing 2-3 20gallon water changes weekly.

 

[Lostoften]

Guessing my past loss has made me twitchy like these fish. The marks are gone, so I guess it must have been sand? It's weird that it occurred on both sides at same spot, or the fin was thin enough that it appeared from both sides. Now it is visible white mark mid-body by the tail both sides.

Picture and video under white lights.

Flame Angel white lights

 

[Lostoften]

Pictures

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Guessing my past loss has made me twitchy like these fish. The marks are gone, so I guess it must have been sand? It's weird that it occurred on both sides at same spot, or the fin was thin enough that it appeared from both sides. Now it is visible white mark mid-body by the tail both sides.

Picture and video under white lights.

Flame Angel white lights

I see some pelvic fin flicking in the video. That can be a sign of flukes, but the angel could also just be trying to knock the feces loose.

 

[Lostoften]

I have not noticed any signs of flashing or darting. All fish had the three doses of prazi/general cure so hopefully it’s just the feces.

Do Angels get stress marks/translucent areas similar to foxfaces/tangs?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I have not noticed any signs of flashing or darting. All fish had the three doses of prazi/general cure so hopefully it’s just the feces.

Do Angels get stress marks/translucent areas similar to foxfaces/tangs?

Centropyge angels have a different type of scale, I've not seen mucus plugs on them, but maybe?