Specific Superglue brand

[Naekuh]

You just use a very thin super glue and marco powder... or you can crush up your rocks and use that.



But the marco powder works the best, but it will cause a LOT of poisonous gas as it bonds.

I use Glue Masters Ultra Thin when i do that for NSA scapes.

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[ArashS1347]

You just use a very thin super glue and marco powder... or you can crush up your rocks and use that.



But the marco powder works the best, but it will cause a LOT of poisonous gas as it bonds.

I use Glue Masters Ultra Thin when i do that for NSA scapes.

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Oh I didn't know this one is aquarium safe, perfect.

Thank you very much

 

[Naekuh]

Oh I didn't know this one is aquarium safe, perfect.

Thank you very much

i have tried the other brands... they don't compare to the real glue masters.
Anyone that has used the real glue master will say its like bootleg moonshine vs aged whiskey.

But when you do it, make sure you are outside in a well ventilated area.
When the glue bonds, it releases Cyanide Gas and get really hot, which well, i don't think i need to say more.
So don't do it indoors unless you have some form of ventilator, and air scrubber.

 

[ArashS1347]

i have tried the other brands... they don't compare to the real glue masters.
Anyone that has used the real glue master will say its like bootleg moonshine vs aged whiskey.

But when you do it, make sure you are outside in a well ventilated area.
When the glue bonds, it releases Cyanide Gas and get really hot, which well, i don't think i need to say more.
So don't do it indoors unless you have some form of ventilator, and air scrubber.

That's a great advise, surely will do it outside.
Really appreciate it.

 

[Dburr1014]

Oh I didn't know this one is aquarium safe, perfect.

Thank you very much

Cyanoacrylate is reef safe. That is the same ingredient in *most* of the superglue.
One can't be better than another if it's the same ingredient. Right?

Do layers... Sand, glue, sand, glue, until it's built up how you like it. It will "smoke" and get hot.

 

[Naekuh]

One can't be better than another if it's the same ingredient. Right?

Actually you'd be surprised that there are different formulas and some are vastly superior then others.
For example BSI makes great thick gel glue, i use it a lot for attaching frags, while seachem stuff you might as well throw away.

I use the glue masters for rockwork, because again, nothing comes close to it.

But yes in general its all the same.

 

[NanoNana]

Yeah, I'm trying to find a safe glue somebody already used.

Thank you

Cyanoacrylate or ethyl cyanoacrylate. Brand doesn’t matter as far as safety goes if those are your only ingredients.

Are you gluing this in an already established tank? I’m afraid of epoxy because the VOC’s are horrible. If I can’t expose the parrots to it, it’s not going in with my fish but that’s just me.

 

[Rappa]

I would not use in direct contact with a coral. There is a chemical reaction.
Rock to rock, no issues. I have mounted a gorgonian that was attached to a small rock fragment to attached it to a bigger rock in the tank with no issues; again no contact directly with the coral.

That's basically what I was asking... Can the accelerator be used to glue a plug or a rock to a structure in the tank without poisoning the water? Have you done this with your Gorg? What i want to do, is put a dab of glue/gel on a rock in the tank, put a dab on the coral plug/rock, hit the plug with a drop of accelerator, then immediately go into the tank to have it set instantly... I read that once it contacts the glue and you can smell that nice fragrant smell from the reaction, that it is non-toxic... but I don't want to chance it unless I know for sure it's ok. Thx for the reply!

 

[Dburr1014]

That's basically what I was asking... Can the accelerator be used to glue a plug or a rock to a structure in the tank without poisoning the water? Have you done this with your Gorg? What i want to do, is put a dab of glue/gel on a rock in the tank, put a dab on the coral plug/rock, hit the plug with a drop of accelerator, then immediately go into the tank to have it set instantly... I read that once it contacts the glue and you can smell that nice fragrant smell from the reaction, that it is non-toxic... but I don't want to chance it unless I know for sure it's ok. Thx for the reply!

I will answer again.

I wouldn't use it. If I remember right, it's a chemical to speed up drying time, like acetone or isopropyl. They evaporate quickly. Don't use acetone on coral.

Fun fact, dip in water right after applying the glue and it immediately sets. Why? The lack of air sets it.

 

[Dburr1014]

That's basically what I was asking... Can the accelerator be used to glue a plug or a rock to a structure in the tank without poisoning the water? Have you done this with your Gorg? What i want to do, is put a dab of glue/gel on a rock in the tank, put a dab on the coral plug/rock, hit the plug with a drop of accelerator, then immediately go into the tank to have it set instantly... I read that once it contacts the glue and you can smell that nice fragrant smell from the reaction, that it is non-toxic... but I don't want to chance it unless I know for sure it's ok. Thx for the reply!

To add to my previous post:

If the accelerator is completely evaporated, it is safe to use in the tank.

But not needed as I explained earlier.

 

[Rappa]

Thanks bud I heard you the first time. I'm not looking for opinions because I already have the same opinion you are referring to. I'm trying to gather if anyone knows for a "fact" that it can or cannot be done. And no offense meant here, but no glue sets immediately under water. You always have to hold it in position for a period of time, which is not instant...

 

[Dburr1014]

Thanks bud I heard you the first time. I'm not looking for opinions because I already have the same opinion you are referring to. I'm trying to gather if anyone knows for a "fact" that it can or cannot be done. And no offense meant here, but no glue sets immediately under water. You always have to hold it in position for a period of time, which is not instant...

Okay...

Happy Reefing, bud.

 

[Dburr1014]

Thanks bud I heard you the first time. I'm not looking for opinions because I already have the same opinion you are referring to. I'm trying to gather if anyone knows for a "fact" that it can or cannot be done. And no offense meant here, but no glue sets immediately under water. You always have to hold it in position for a period of time, which is not instant...

https://www.wonderopolis.org/wonder/how-does-super-glue-work#:~:text=As%20soon%20as%20cyanoacrylate%20molecules,the%20glue%20will%20not%20harden.

 

[ArashS1347]

Cyanoacrylate is reef safe. That is the same ingredient in *most* of the superglue.
One can't be better than another if it's the same ingredient. Right?

Do layers... Sand, glue, sand, glue, until it's built up how you like it. It will "smoke" and get hot.

Yes that's right.

Thank you very much

 

[ArashS1347]

Cyanoacrylate or ethyl cyanoacrylate. Brand doesn’t matter as far as safety goes if those are your only ingredients.

Are you gluing this in an already established tank? I’m afraid of epoxy because the VOC’s are horrible. If I can’t expose the parrots to it, it’s not going in with my fish but that’s just me.

No its not stablished yet, my plan is to start it after I finished the stones, I will test the superglue first before mixing the superglue and E Proxy technique, as far as other friends advised, the super glue and sand should be enough.

Thank you very much

 

[Naekuh]

i think the accelerator is just alcohol and baking soda...

I know home made accelerator is baking soda. When in doubt just make it yourself then.