If I were a betting man, I'd say purely speculative. But it doesn’t mean there's not truth to it.
The Ecotech pump clones have arrived in Ali Express !!!
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vadryn
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That's unfortunate. The enemy in this hobby (and most things) is ignorance. I admire companies like BRS and Tidal Gardens that have sought to educate to grow the hobby, instead of gatekeeping to maximize profit margins. Salem reviewing a readily available product that's generating a lot of interest is a good thing.
Since the buy-out BRS feels so different... they are my last choice to purchase things I need now where they used to be first without question. Ecotech is following the same playbook. Disappointing. If there's a legal complaint, go public with it.
Since the buy-out BRS feels so different... they are my last choice to purchase things I need now where they used to be first without question. Ecotech is following the same playbook. Disappointing. If there's a legal complaint, go public with it.
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Is there a problem with trying to maximize profits or keep a business afloat?
There are options to buy supplies. Nothing to be disappointed about.
vadryn
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Finding out you can no longer trust someone that you used to trust is disappointing. At least there are other good options still available for supplies.
There's no problem with people making a profit. I don't feel that reef-keeping should be restricted to the affluent. Shutting down competition to maintain a monopoly is gatekeeping. We need more people in the hobby, not less. I applaude companies making the hobby more accessible.
There's no problem with people making a profit. I don't feel that reef-keeping should be restricted to the affluent. Shutting down competition to maintain a monopoly is gatekeeping. We need more people in the hobby, not less. I applaude companies making the hobby more accessible.
I have no idea and would not want to speculate, seen a few people saying this was the case but no one confirm it’s a fact.
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Anyone try the (m) Bluetooth Wi-Fi version? I haven’t followed every single post and just noticed there’s a dmp40 and a dmp40m and the only I could read is that one is bt/wifi and the other not? I can’t read the Ali site as it’s not accessible.
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How do you like the pump so far? I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on a couple of these.
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I’ve got 4 of the smallest ones.
Been using them for about a week.
My impression thus far is they seem fine and I’m guessing most savings in their manufacturing costs were in the magnets (mechanism to hold the wet side to dry side)
The suction cups also don’t really work (it’s the dry side (outer heavy motor side) that tends to want to fall off/down
My tanks are both located rather close in corners of my basement so I was able to use a piece of 2 inch Styrofoam to help hold the heavy dry side tightly to the outside of the back of the tank out of sight
I haven’t tried to set them up to adjust flow between night and day yet
Been using them for about a week.
My impression thus far is they seem fine and I’m guessing most savings in their manufacturing costs were in the magnets (mechanism to hold the wet side to dry side)
The suction cups also don’t really work (it’s the dry side (outer heavy motor side) that tends to want to fall off/down
My tanks are both located rather close in corners of my basement so I was able to use a piece of 2 inch Styrofoam to help hold the heavy dry side tightly to the outside of the back of the tank out of sight
I haven’t tried to set them up to adjust flow between night and day yet
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It’s not mobius? Haha
Nope it’s Mobao
I just got my dmp10 yesterday and feel the same about the suction cups on dry side. The top one always comes loose a bit so there is a noticeable gap on the top of the dry side. I push it in at night and it comes back next morning
Although this hasn't seem to affect wet side performance? I wonder if it will help if the dry side cord goes UP and secure to the glass with a better suction cup (the one on the cord sucks too...)?
I have several of the Jebao wifi pumps (ELW, ECP, etc) and a few of the newer bluetooth return pumps. Bluetooth is easier to setup (instant, no potential wifi hassles), but managing/using them longer term, the wifi is much easier in the app. When you open the app, the wifi pumps are there and connected, the bluetooth ones you have to press/hold the button on screen to reconnect every time.
I have a separate, dedicated 2.4ghz wireless network for all my IoT stuff, so I don't have setup issues with the wifi controllers. I know some people with mesh networks and multiple bands sharing the same SSID do have issues, but I'll go wifi every time if I have the option.
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k.cleven makes a printed version for these pumps with various flow options. He's on IG
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Nice, I just ordered up some Wi-Fi controllers for my Jebao gyres on eBay to try out (hoping to be able to create schedules with different flow patterns). If it works out I may get a couple of the Wi-Fi 40s as well.
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I wonder what Mervin F. Roberts would say about the patent design from ecotech? Seems like the pedicure story doesn't quite stand up to me?
1967 patent
1967 patent
Jebaos WiFi program has me on the verge of throwing the ALW10 I just purchased in the bin. I can’t get it connected. The pump is operating on random but other than that the instructions were awful and the process painful.
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