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Hi this is my very first saltwater tank and i had some questions about the ugly stage.

I've noticed that once my lights turn on my tank is brown also looks like the water is brown too. After an hour or so tank gets worse, then a few hours after that tank clears up and stays clear/ a little cloudy through the rest of the day. Is this something I should be concerned about? Is this just a waiting period thing? When I test the water levels everything come out to 0
These 2 pictures I recently took and I did a 20% water change the day before. No I do not used RODI water. I use tap water and water conditioner when mixing/making new saltwater.

This has been going on for about a month now.

I have a 55gal tank currently have 5 fish 1 shrimp and 1 snail. I have a small pump that came with a tank and a larger canister filter as well.
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Very few people can get away with not using RODI. Some folks are lucky and have very pure water as a source (usually well water but not all wells will provide good water). Others have easy access to natural seawater.

Conditioners do not purify water only detoxify the chlorine and chloramines. Some will bind up some heavy metals. It doesn't remove the phosphates found in most municipal system.

I suspect your experiencing some sort of bacterial or algae bloom driven by unknown/untested nutrients in the water added in makeup water. RODI units are an expense but one that's almost required for most of us. Have you had your water tested or can you obtain government test results on your water?

There's really no 'no cost' option for RODI. You could purchase RODI or mixed seawater if available in your area but that'll exceed cost of basic RODI quickly. You can minimize how much RODI you need by reducing evaporation and setting up system for minimal water changes.
 

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Tap water is going to lead to continual problems there.

In the end RODI would benefit greatly. The trouble is that people are scared off by the initial cost of the RODI system and the cost of replacement media.

But when compared to the alternatives, such as buying pre-made water (not a big fan as you never know what you're getting), RODI makes sense.
 

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It doesn't look like an ugly stage as much as it looks like a lack of husbandry.
Hi this is my very first saltwater tank and i had some questions about the ugly stage.

I've noticed that once my lights turn on my tank is brown also looks like the water is brown too. After an hour or so tank gets worse, then a few hours after that tank clears up and stays clear/ a little cloudy through the rest of the day. Is this something I should be concerned about? Is this just a waiting period thing? When I test the water levels everything come out to 0
These 2 pictures I recently took and I did a 20% water change the day before. No I do not used RODI water. I use tap water and water conditioner when mixing/making new saltwater.

This has been going on for about a month now.

I have a 55gal tank currently have 5 fish 1 shrimp and 1 snail. I have a small pump that came with a tank and a larger canister filter as well.

Is this a fresh water tank that you converted to salt water?
 

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In the end RODI would benefit greatly. The trouble is that people are scared off by the initial cost of the RODI system and the cost of replacement media.

But when compared to the alternatives, such as buying pre-made water (not a big fan as you never know what you're getting), RODI makes sense.
Agree, it really is a must have in this hobby to ensure quality and 0 TDS.
 
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It doesn't look like an ugly stage as much as it looks like a lack of husbandry.


Is this a fresh water tank that you converted to salt water?
No tank has only been salt water. When I bought the tank I let it cycle for at least 3 months with no fish. This only happened recently after I bought my blue tang 5 months in and I've had the tank up and running about 6 months now.
 
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It looks more like a lack of husbandry than an ugly stage.
What else should I do?
Every Saturday I do a water change, we stir up the sand and use the brush to wipe off the walls with algae. I'm not to sure if there is more I can do. I changed / cleaned filter about 2 weeks ago.
 

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What else should I do?
Every Saturday I do a water change, we stir up the sand and use the brush to wipe off the walls with algae. I'm not to sure if there is more I can do. I changed / cleaned filter about 2 weeks ago.

What to do would depend on the equipment you run.

For me, working with a sump, I churn only a portion of the sand each week and scrape any algae that may have taken hold. Then I do my water change, siphoning up as much free-floating debris possible. Doing it weekly keeps it from getting out of control. My filter media gets changed weekly.

You certainly seem to have a good husbandry routine. But I am unsure about your filter. Based on the photos, it looks like you use a Hang-On-Back filter. Is this correct? If so, I would make cleaning and rinsing its media part of your weekly husbandry routine too. Two weeks is too long in my opinion.
 
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What to do would depend on the equipment you run.

For me, working with a sump, I churn only a portion of the sand each week and scrape any algae that may have taken hold. Then I do my water change, siphoning up as much free-floating debris possible. Doing it weekly keeps it from getting out of control. My filter media gets changed weekly.

You certainly seem to have a good husbandry routine. But I am unsure about your filter. Based on the photos, it looks like you use a Hang-On-Back filter. Is this correct? If so, I would make cleaning and rinsing its media part of your weekly husbandry routine too. Two weeks is too long in my opinion.
Yes, I have black hanging filter and a aqueon canister filter. I can start adding that to my routine as well.
 

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Yes, I have black hanging filter and a aqueon canister filter. I can start adding that to my routine as well.
Ah... a canister filter. They can be nitrate factories if not maintained weekly.
 

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