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won't aspartic and glutamic acid get skimmed out by a protein skimmer?
Does seaweed have Phosphates?
It starts growing bacteria within a week. IME@marke I found this tread while doing some research on amino acids for my tank. I would love to make this mixture as well for my tanks. Did you use L-Aspartic Acid or D-Aspartic Acid. I don't really know the difference.
@Randy Holmes-Farley do you know if this mix needs to be refrigerated? Or can I hook this up to my doser once I make the solution?
Did you use L-Aspartic Acid or D-Aspartic Acid?It starts growing bacteria within a week. IME
@marke I found this tread while doing some research on amino acids for my tank. I would love to make this mixture as well for my tanks. Did you use L-Aspartic Acid or D-Aspartic Acid. I don't really know the difference.
@Randy Holmes-Farley do you know if this mix needs to be refrigerated? Or can I hook this up to my doser once I make the solution?
I know I have read that people have dosed these as a carbon source. Whats your thoughts? An good articles? If its a carbon source why is it the primary ingredient in most amino acid supplements? Is it a coral food or a bacteria food? Maybe both? Maybe aminos are feeding bacteria which in turn feed corals. Not making a statement, just asking for others opinions and research. Thanks in advance for responding!
@marke I found this tread while doing some research on amino acids for my tank. I would love to make this mixture as well for my tanks. Did you use L-Aspartic Acid or D-Aspartic Acid. I don't really know the difference.
@Randy Holmes-Farley do you know if this mix needs to be refrigerated? Or can I hook this up to my doser once I make the solution?
Luke
Old thread? Good questions. Use L-Aspartic as RF mentioned already. Problem to deal with is it is not soluble in water without manipulation in some way. (trade secret) Each way bringing its pros and cons. I think you (like ME) should add some glutamic acid to the blend if you try to mix them. Similarly hard to dissolve especially if you want to make a strong solution. As to the refrigeration question. If nothing else is added to this solution, fridge will help avoid the growth of microbials, bacteria,etc in the bottle. Happens fast, even in fridge. Most manufactures add a preservative to their liquid aminos to add shelf life and avoid fridge. Some of these additives are better than others. Some contain phosphates and some contain an alcohol or ethanol. ME uses vinegar as a safe preservative which also adds a little carbon, Helping the consumption of the added NO3 from the aminos. I do want to politely disagree with Dr RF on the value of aminos for growing sps corals. RF says its just another NO3 source and equates it to NO3 dosing. Yes aminos are a good source of no3 with lower levels of po4 than regular food feeding which is good for corals. The real difference I see is if we dose aminos we see a coral feeding response in 10 minutes. Why? We dont see this when we dose NO3. ME feels its the coral instantly feeding on the aminos before they are gone from the water column, possibly due to bacterial, and algae consumption. Mike Paletta feels corals grow faster with doser feeding aminos during the day allowing corals to feed more during daytime, and allowing particulate feeding at night as corals typically do. We feels 24/7 dosing works best. With appropriate no3 test. Also how come when we dose aminos we don't see an NO3 rise in our system as we would when we dose no3? Just saying amino dosing is different than nitrate dosing, and both have there place with ME.
Trypsin and chymotrypsin would be examples of readily available enzymes that break down proteins to amino acids and small polypeptides.As far as i know some manufactures of Aminos some how extract aminos from the likes of Spirulina powder as that is one of the reachest algae thats loaded with goodies that corals love. I am no scientist, but my understanding is in order for the aminos to be available to coral a digestive enzime needs to break the spirulina down and byproduct is used as aminos. Question is what kinds of enzimes and how is it done exactly
As far as i know some manufactures of Aminos some how extract aminos from the likes of Spirulina powder as that is one of the reachest algae thats loaded with goodies that corals love. I am no scientist, but my understanding is in order for the aminos to be available to coral a digestive enzime needs to break the spirulina down and byproduct is used as aminos. Question is what kinds of enzimes and how is it done exactly
There are lots of digestive enzymes that break down proteins.
Why do you think they use something like spirulina? Sounds messy and impure. That isn't how amino acids for human consumption are obtained.
from wikipedia:
Amino acid - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
" The commercial production of amino acids usually relies on mutant bacteria that overproduce individual amino acids using glucose as a carbon source. Some amino acids are produced by enzymatic conversions of synthetic intermediates. "