It might just be more fluffy, right? Not more hydrated? Unless the required mass increases, it might just have a lower bulk density.
Right you are! More fluffy....LOL.....that must be one of those sophisticated highfalutin chemistry words.
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It might just be more fluffy, right? Not more hydrated? Unless the required mass increases, it might just have a lower bulk density.
Also, Ryan already said that the larger buckets weren't economical for them after shipping, taxes, etc. So what kind of business sells bulk for no gain or a loss? Not one that stays in business very long. I'd rather them discontinue those and stay around rather than go out of business because you want 5 lb buckets.
You're the only one that implied that BRS should lose money on the 5 gallon buckets. The people who loved the 5 gallon buckets stated in their posts that they're willing to pay more. If the 5 gallon buckets are not economical, why not raise the price on them? If nobody buys them and the market won't support the new price, then cancel them.
This is what bothers me most about this product line change. None of what Bulk Reef Supply has said about their new additive line appears to jive with reality or common sense. Bulk Reef Supply claims that the newer product line features ultra-pure pharmaceutical grade components. However, they already claimed that their old additives were "pharmaceutical grade" and were much purer than the competitors' products. So why the increase in quality? If the "inferior" products from their competitors were likely good enough and the old additives were already much better than that... why make them even better still?
If you need to charge more money for old product lines or change your existing product line simply to stay competitive, I have no problems with that. If you want to change your product line and charge more money just because, I may not agree with that, but I can at the least understand and accept that. I can even understand a new pharma line and charging more because the old supplier went out of business, and this is just the way the new product line has to be sold. This price increase was none of those things. This product line change was ostensibly in the name of quality, when I (and many others) believe the old BRS stuff was already more pure than necessary. It feels dishonest to introduce the new pharma line all in the name of purity when BRS sold the old stuff as being the gold-standard of purity in the aquarium hobby in the first place.
I know we're beating a dead horse here, but posts like yours suggest that people have a fundamental misunderstanding of the opposition to this change. I know that things get more expensive and businesses have to charge more money. I wouldn't have cared if there was a 10% - 20% increase in price over the old product line. I also don't ever expect a business to operate at a loss. What I take exception to is the 50% to 100% price increase all in the name of unnecessary purity, especially when the old stuff was marketed as basically the purest you could possibly get.
You're the only one that implied that BRS should lose money on the 5 gallon buckets. The people who loved the 5 gallon buckets stated in their posts that they're willing to pay more. If the 5 gallon buckets are not economical, why not raise the price on them? If nobody buys them and the market won't support the new price, then cancel them.
This is what bothers me most about this product line change. None of what Bulk Reef Supply has said about their new additive line appears to jive with reality or common sense. Bulk Reef Supply claims that the newer product line features ultra-pure pharmaceutical grade components. However, they already claimed that their old additives were "pharmaceutical grade" and were much purer than the competitors' products. So why the increase in quality? If the "inferior" products from their competitors were likely good enough and the old additives were already much better than that... why make them even better still?
If you need to charge more money for old product lines or change your existing product line simply to stay competitive, I have no problems with that. If you want to change your product line and charge more money just because, I may not agree with that, but I can at the least understand and accept that. I can even understand a new pharma line and charging more because the old supplier went out of business, and this is just the way the new product line has to be sold. This price increase was none of those things. This product line change was ostensibly in the name of quality, when I (and many others) believe the old BRS stuff was already more pure than necessary. It feels dishonest to introduce the new pharma line all in the name of purity when BRS sold the old stuff as being the gold-standard of purity in the aquarium hobby in the first place.
I know we're beating a dead horse here, but posts like yours suggest that people have a fundamental misunderstanding of the opposition to this change. I know that things get more expensive and businesses have to charge more money. I wouldn't have cared if there was a 10% - 20% increase in price over the old product line. I also don't ever expect a business to operate at a loss. What I take exception to is the 50% to 100% price increase all in the name of unnecessary purity, especially when the old stuff was marketed as basically the purest you could possibly get.
I disagree, just because people have small tanks doesn't mean they aren't reefing. And most people are happy reefing with small tanks. I don't know BRS, but I imagine the 'bulk' of their customers don't have overly large tanks. Sure some people bought large packages to minimize how often they had to order, but that doesn't meant that everyone buying the 5 lb buckets had 'large tanks'. But just because you wouldn't want a small tank doesn't mean BRS should only worry about large tank setups.
It doesn't need to be a money suck if you buy your chemicals in bulk and don't need to worry about buying them again until many months later. That's why people are annoyed I think. Personally I have enough of the old style chemical at home that I haven't had to buy any of the new. But, I can see how it will be bothersome when I do. People like to support BRS because they have been such a good company to work with for such a long time. I get that. I feel the same way. No one wants to have to buy bulk reef supply from someone that isn't bulk reef supply.There's an easy solution to all this - Go buy it somewhere else. These are not special BRS mystery products like Triton or Red Sea or Aquaforest, these are base chemicals. If you don't want or care about the highest purity or the packaging there are other places to get them for less.
This hobby is such a huge money suck I can't fathom being bothered by something so incremental, but whatever floats your boat I guess.
Right you are! More fluffy....LOL.....that must be one of those sophisticated highfalutin chemistry words.
You're the only one that implied that BRS should lose money on the 5 gallon buckets. The people who loved the 5 gallon buckets stated in their posts that they're willing to pay more. If the 5 gallon buckets are not economical, why not raise the price on them? If nobody buys them and the market won't support the new price, then cancel them.
This is what bothers me most about this product line change. None of what Bulk Reef Supply has said about their new additive line appears to jive with reality or common sense. Bulk Reef Supply claims that the newer product line features ultra-pure pharmaceutical grade components. However, they already claimed that their old additives were "pharmaceutical grade" and were much purer than the competitors' products. So why the increase in quality? If the "inferior" products from their competitors were likely good enough and the old additives were already much better than that... why make them even better still?
If you need to charge more money for old product lines or change your existing product line simply to stay competitive, I have no problems with that. If you want to change your product line and charge more money just because, I may not agree with that, but I can at the least understand and accept that. I can even understand a new pharma line and charging more because the old supplier went out of business, and this is just the way the new product line has to be sold. This price increase was none of those things. This product line change was ostensibly in the name of quality, when I (and many others) believe the old BRS stuff was already more pure than necessary. It feels dishonest to introduce the new pharma line all in the name of purity when BRS sold the old stuff as being the gold-standard of purity in the aquarium hobby in the first place.
I know we're beating a dead horse here, but posts like yours suggest that people have a fundamental misunderstanding of the opposition to this change. I know that things get more expensive and businesses have to charge more money. I wouldn't have cared if there was a 10% - 20% increase in price over the old product line. I also don't ever expect a business to operate at a loss. What I take exception to is the 50% to 100% price increase all in the name of unnecessary purity, especially when the old stuff was marketed as basically the purest you could possibly get.
People like to support BRS because they have been such a good company to work with for such a long time. I get that. I feel the same way. No one wants to have to buy bulk reef supply from someone that isn't bulk reef supply.
Then support the company by paying a few more bucks and stop whining about it...? (Not directed specifically at you)
https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/5-gallons-bulk-pharma-soda-ash-bulk-reef-supply.html
Says it is a new item, and says pharma grade. Is this the old stuff, or did they decide to make 5 gallon buckets of the new stuff after all?
Sorry, but where did I offend reefers with small tanks?I disagree, just because people have small tanks doesn't mean they aren't reefing. And most people are happy reefing with small tanks. I don't know BRS, but I imagine the 'bulk' of their customers don't have overly large tanks. Sure some people bought large packages to minimize how often they had to order, but that doesn't meant that everyone buying the 5 lb buckets had 'large tanks'. But just because you wouldn't want a small tank doesn't mean BRS should only worry about large tank setups.
Sorry, but where did I offend reefers with small tanks?
And just because Ryan says? Please explain why 40 lbs of product costs more to ship in a box when the product is in a pail?
Further more, their company name suggests “ bulk supply “ and when you go to Costco, and buy in bulk, do you shop there for savings in bulk or because your lazy and don’t shop often? Either way, most companies should want higher sales, and nobody cares why the consumer wants it, only that the sale was made. Oh, and big deal, I spend $85.00 for a 5 gallon pail, and save a whole $15.00. WOW