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Agreed on the second part of this post.
However, I looked into reef angel, and from my understanding not only is the quality in things like USB ports sometimes lacking (since it's a one-man show trying to come in under the Neptune's price), but for the same reason manufacture support is spotty, and it has only basic viability for someone who can't manage/troubleshoot a computer and program C. Further, I understand that there's no interface for Maxpect, Ecotech/Vortech products; it can only work with products that basically run on a 0-10v connection.
That automatically makes it a niche product.
I’m using a jebao, and have great results so far. I also made a DIY CO2 scrubber. I have a RO/DI and saltwater system that I spent good money on for storage tanks and an excellent pump that will last for a long time.you can build a DIY controller using raspberry PI. there is lots of info out there. I plan on building one at some point. "
May i introduce you to jebao? they are much cheaper, and most of the time quite reliable. 2022 the MP's patent expires i am pretty sure. Jebao will have one on the market in no time.
I agree totally on the stirrer! I actually built my own out of a spare computer fan, some leftover magnets, and an unused 12V power supply Really increases agitation during testing while cutting down on time.I have a stirrer that I use when testing the water. It gives me better results than if I just shake the test bottles. So with better results I can dose the right amount of chemicals and save money in the long run.
Off topic, but maybe you could post the Kessil fan replacement instructions in a separate article for us Kessil users?After 20 pages - if any of you have any ecotech vortecs you're tossing PM me. I've fixed a half dozen or so bearings. Same with Kessil 360s fans..
The thing about this thread is I can think of multiple middle of the road products. And guess what, nobody buys them. Look up a coralbox rn-1 for me and tell me how many people use it? Almost exactly like a Nero but less than half the price. Reefbreeders LEDS are another fantastic example. Very rare but they are the product everyone is asking for on here. I can think of two cheap reef controllers right now. And dosing pumps. But I can’t think a single tank I have seen them utlized in.
MAP pricing is a joke. I can't think of anything else I'm into where the vendors fix the pricing the way they do in this hobby. Good thing is a little looking around and you can find all sorts of people willing to sell new high end equipment (Ecotech, Neptune, Red Sea, etc.) at decent discounts off MAP. I haven't purchased anything expensive from the like of BRS in quite some time for that reason.
Following this & agree with crazy prices. However, there are less convenient, less glitzy, less expensive ways to do the same things. We have a lot more controllers than ever now & yes it would be nice to combine some of those. However, I often think all-in-one type hardware (like printers), one or more aspect of those often goes out & you end up with a multi-color printer/copier/fax that now won't fax, color cartridges don't work, etc.I was grousing about the same earlier... frustrated that I spent more on test kits and an algae magnet than in my used tank and stand.. lol. Then I hit "proceed to checkout."
I'll fight the power w u. Diy ats and legacy lights [emoji2]
No way around the controller I can see. In my mind, it is worth it IF they don't come out w a new model every 3 years. If u think about the programming/OS, it's in line w other proprietary software licenses. It does seem excessive that almost every device needs a module though. The trade needs a nice merger or two!
I know full well that I'll be spending $800 on a product that works "most" of the time but I'm also going the leverage the social media and industry support that's out there to help program and troubleshoot.
Never had pro0blems with My COR, at 5ft of head, is steady.The Apex itself works great. It's the other products they came out with after that are crap. Try using a DOS for more then 2 months without the level sensor failing. Try adding food to their feeder without the front cover falling off. Try getting the advertised flow rate from a COR pump. That stuff is all overpriced crap. Most of the reviews are dreadful. The Apex itself is great.
Why would you need to pull the cover off?
Yes.Um, to add food. Is that a serious question?