Medications to keep on hand

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  1. Humblefish

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    With copper you can ramp it up slowly; but with Prazipro you need to dose it all at once in order for it to be effective. It doesn't last long in the water.
     
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    Didn't wanna overdose Prazi. Can Prazi be overdosed?
     
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    Yes, if in doubt always underdose a little. This applies to all medications!
     
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    So after using the coppersafe they were fine for first 2 days but since last night they seem little tired, lethergic. Is that normal?
     
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    But they are eating fine. No problem with eating.
     
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    Yup. Copper is poison, fish don't like being in it. The only reason it works is because most fish can survive longer in it than the parasites. ;)
     
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    So I shouldn't start freaking out? And it's only 1ppm and I'm scared to being it up to 1.5. Can I just leave it at 1 for a month?
     
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    No, it needs to be at least 1.5 ppm for 30 consecutive days. The fish will usually start adjusting to it being in the water.
     
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    Ok I guess I'll add more coppersafe. I am using salifert test kit. Just worried about then not being too active.
     
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    Are ocellaris supposed to look less active during copper treatment?
     
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    Lethargy is one possible side effect of copper treatment.
     
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    Ok that makes sense. Both my clowns just keep sitting in the pvc pipe and not a lot of movement. But so far they are eating okay.
     
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    So what are the main meds and what they cure that you recommend we should have humble fish and melypr
     
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    These would be the "bare essentials" in my fish medicine cabinet:
    • Coppersafe with an API copper test kit (External parasites)
    • Prazipro (Dewormer)
    • Seachem Kanaplex (Broad spectrum antibiotic for dealing with bacterial infections)
    • Seachem Metroplex or Metro-MS (Treats uncommon diseases which the above are sometimes ineffective against)
    • Ruby Reef Rally (Emergency bath treatment for velvet & brook)
     
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    Just spoke to my vet and they are willing to do some research on chloroquine phosphate and get back to me.

    Does this have any carcinogens I should be concerned about?
     
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    No, CP is an actual medication used to prevent and to treat malaria in humans. Targeting the theront stage of marine external parasites is just a pleasant side effect. ;)
     
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    Thanks
     
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    What do you think about seachem focus?
     
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    Focus is great to have on hand to bind medications to food when QT just isn't possible. Or even while in QT for situations where the meds would be more productive if ingested directly. You can even use it to bind vitamins to the food you feed your fish, though that is hardly necessary.
     
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    Really? Melypr, i found a small ice cube tray that i want to free my food in. I want to unthaw fertility frenzy, add selcon, garlic, marine snow, and fuel, amd crunch some pellets for Zoas in it and freeze it and then just have the cubes
     

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