MXM: Missing Anti-Sync and Back Profiles for Vortech

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How did you get that to show up? Can I force a software upgrade? I got prompted for new MXM software and Apex software. My new AI orbit didn't show up until after that. I updated the software last night, but I still don't have that sync and anti-sync show up for my MP pumps.
 

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Well mxm just had an update in Fusion. Aswell as in Mobius. According to the update notes it is only for AI's new pumps. They now have sync and anti-sync capabilities. Nothing in the notes about versa or MP sync and anti-sync.
Thanks for the update. Now I can justify buying it.
 

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It does have the sync and anti-sync. It just doesn't show up when using the safari browser for some reason. I have it in Chrome. Look at the side by side. Really weird but this one isn't on Apex....


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So now that I have this option how do I set it up? I choose one pump by putting in its schedule. And then on the other one I use anti-sync or sync and it copies it's flow program either syncing = exactly the same but at an intensity programmed into the schedule or any-sync where it will ramp up or down opposite the other pump not exceeding its own programmed intensity? Or do they both have to be set to anti sync or sync? Although if I do that I don't get to dictate which actual flow patter either of them run.

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Adam
 

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Be careful if you do the update remotely. It caused my Nero3 to run 100%, was on lunch so will have to troubleshoot later.
 

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So now that I have this option how do I set it up? I choose one pump by putting in its schedule. And then on the other one I use anti-sync or sync and it copies it's flow program either syncing = exactly the same but at an intensity programmed into the schedule or any-sync where it will ramp up or down opposite the other pump not exceeding its own programmed intensity? Or do they both have to be set to anti sync or sync? Although if I do that I don't get to dictate which actual flow patter either of them run.

Thanks,

Adam
Anyone?
 

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Did you have to update the MXM firmware as well? I updated the APEX but don't see an option to update the MXM module yet, and still no sync / anti option?

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You dont update the MXM module in Fusion. You need to go into Mobious and you should have and update for the MXM there.
 

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So now that I have this option how do I set it up? I choose one pump by putting in its schedule. And then on the other one I use anti-sync or sync and it copies it's flow program either syncing = exactly the same but at an intensity programmed into the schedule or any-sync where it will ramp up or down opposite the other pump not exceeding its own programmed intensity? Or do they both have to be set to anti sync or sync? Although if I do that I don't get to dictate which actual flow patter either of them run.

Thanks,

Adam
In Fusion... choose 1 pump to be the primary pump. Save the settings. Then select your secondary pump... Paste the settings. Then go into each point and select anti sync and power 100%.
 

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This is how I have mine. This is in the WXM but it would still be the same.
 

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Supposedly, they are working on adding it to the MP's as well. I am not sure the Versa's will ever be supported.

Maybe if a new versa comes out.... I know... wishful thinking.
 

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One thing I want to point out, it was suggested earlier to set the Child to 100%.

That doesn't make the Child act the same as the Parent. It will actually make the child operate at full capacity.

The confusion stems from mobius working that way, but fusion works the opposite.
 

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One thing I want to point out, it was suggested earlier to set the Child to 100%.

That doesn't make the Child act the same as the Parent. It will actually make the child operate at full capacity.

The confusion stems from mobius working that way, but fusion works the opposite.
Are you sure about that? I run an MP60 on a smaller 36 x 36 tank. I need the MP60 because it’s on the back wall of my tank which has a sheet of acrylic on top of the glass, so the thickness doesn’t allow MP40’s to stick. I have it set to 100% but it’s definitely not working at 100% or I would have a very large sand storm.
 

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One thing I want to point out, it was suggested earlier to set the Child to 100%.

That doesn't make the Child act the same as the Parent. It will actually make the child operate at full capacity.

The confusion stems from mobius working that way, but fusion works the opposite.
When you set the child pump to 100%, that will make the child pump run at 100% sync or unsync from the parent pump. In sync you want the child pump to run 100% so that it is doing exactly what the parent pump is doing. If you put 80% or 60% or 40%, it will run that percentage of whatever the parent pump is running. In anti-sync you want the child to do 100% the opposite of whatever the parent is doing. So if the parent is at 100% the child it will go down to 20%. If the parent is at 20% the child will go to 100%. Around 20% and under the pumps go into feed mode or night mode. So around 20% would be the slowest the pumpkin go without going into that mode. This is the way it works in Fusion. In Mobius it's much simpler because whenever you change a mode it's instant. Infusion it's all timed. So if you change from reefcrest to let's say constant there is a minute that has to elapse. For that you will have the pumps sync. If you look at my program you can see where I have the pumps sync and unsync to help with the pumps not acting the way you want them to act when changing modes and speed.
 

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When you set the child pump to 100%, that will make the child pump run at 100% sync or unsync from the parent pump. In sync you want the child pump to run 100% so that it is doing exactly what the parent pump is doing. If you put 80% or 60% or 40%, it will run that percentage of whatever the parent pump is running. In anti-sync you want the child to do 100% the opposite of whatever the parent is doing. So if the parent is at 100% the child it will go down to 20%. If the parent is at 20% the child will go to 100%. Around 20% and under the pumps go into feed mode or night mode. So around 20% would be the slowest the pumpkin go without going into that mode. This is the way it works in Fusion. In Mobius it's much simpler because whenever you change a mode it's instant. Infusion it's all timed. So if you change from reefcrest to let's say constant there is a minute that has to elapse. For that you will have the pumps sync. If you look at my program you can see where I have the pumps sync and unsync to help with the pumps not acting the way you want them to act when changing modes and speed.
I stand corrected, I just validated this with Neptune. I'm glad that it's the same as mobius. I really like the way mobius handles sync/anti-sync.
 

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